Biden authorised Syria bombing

The US have been international war mongers through all our lives, whoever has been president. Unfortunately we tend to get dragged along with them.

More unfortunately involvement in wars, according to google. we hold the highest number in modern times with 46, though that does include 3 wars with iceland (the country not the frozen food retailer) which I assume were the cod wars. I think the USA only 44.
 
Same_as_before said:
So the US is NATO? That's one of things Trump was wound up about.
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What?

Turkey took advantage of Trump's decision to withdraw, leaving allies that helped US forces high and dry. He was warned that Turkey would wipe them out as soon as they left but he ignore it.

If US forces remained in the region Turkey could never have attacked the Kurds as it would be an act of war triggering the NATO response.
 
Laughing said:
The US have been international war mongers through all our lives, whoever has been president. Unfortunately we tend to get dragged along with them.

More unfortunately involvement in wars, according to google. we hold the highest number in modern times with 46, though that does include 3 wars with iceland (the country not the frozen food retailer) which I assume were the cod wars. I think the USA only 44.
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That's some going by the US given the age of the country in comparison to ours
 
Chris_Boro said:
What?

Turkey took advantage of Trump's decision to withdraw, leaving allies that helped US forces high and dry. He was warned that Turkey would wipe them out as soon as they left but he ignore it.

If US forces remained in the region Turkey could never have attacked the Kurds as it would be an act of war triggering the NATO response.
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I will say the same thing again, did you want the US in Syria in effect opposing Turkey.

In the end all I was saying was that Trump's foreign policy was the least war like than many others. In my view it's not his biggest failing.
 
Sounds like Biden is getting accusations of hypocrisy by many in the US, as old tweets of his attacking Trump for Syrian airstrikes re-emerge
 
Same_as_before said:
I will say the same thing again, did you want the US in Syria in effect opposing Turkey.

In the end all I was saying was that Trump's foreign policy was the least war like than many others. In my view it's not his biggest failing.
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You are vastly simplifying a complex situation, one that did not need to end in the slaughter of the Kurds that aided the US and its allies.

None of it should be happening, its the result of decades of failed foreign policy from the West in the middle east. Two wrongs do not make a right, the US forces should have remained to protect the Kurds due to being responsible for the situation in the first place.
 
Same_as_before said:
I will say the same thing again, did you want the US in Syria in effect opposing Turkey.

In the end all I was saying was that Trump's foreign policy was the least war like than many others. In my view it's not his biggest failing.
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Your claim about Trump's lack of warlike proclivities ignores the fact that he didn't just continue the US policy of drone strikes, he massively increased it.

As stated in the BBC article below, published in 2019, there were:
2,243 drone strikes in the first two years of the Trump presidency, compared with 1,878 in Mr Obama's eight years in office,
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That's fairly warlike if you ask me.

Trump revokes Obama rule on reporting drone strike deaths

As that article alludes to, the reason most of us probably weren't aware of them, was because he actually stopped the reporting of them. In removing the requirement to report details of US drone strikes, it was actually stated that "the rule was "superfluous" and distracting."

So not only did Trump ramp up the rate of drone strikes to many, many times higher than it was during the Obama administration, he in effect covered up what he was doing, as well.
 
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Same_as_before said:
I will say the same thing again, did you want the US in Syria in effect opposing Turkey.

In the end all I was saying was that Trump's foreign policy was the least war like than many others. In my view it's not his biggest failing.
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They were there with Kurd's protecting the YPG, who effectively stopped ISIS, he pulled out the troops letting tonnes of ISIS soldiers go and allowing the Turks to commit mass war crimes against the Kurds. All to get his hotel built in Turkey...
I'm not really sure the point you're trying to make? There's been plenty of proof on this thread of Trumps behaviour in terms of war mongering.

However, if anyone thought Biden would be any different in terms of war mongering then they're going to be disappointed.
 
Londons_Moggie said:
He didn't set out to start any further wars that is correct, but he did continue to the airstrikes that started under Obama and Bidens administration
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This is a joke right trump not a war monger - He killed the Iran’s top military person in his own country an act of war in anyone’s book and dropped the most powerful weapon SHORT OF NUCLEAR in the us (known) arsenal the so called MOAB.

he also went on record wanting to use nuclear weapons asking why the us hadnt yet used them yet 1 despite how much they cost.

he did all he could to start a way with Iran.
 
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