Best boxer ever. Any weight. Any era.

Centralscrutinizer said:
My biggest sporting hero outside of Middlesbrough players around that era. I watched nearly all of the 61 bouts on YT, and some 5 or 6 times (especially the 1st Liston fight and the Trilogy with Frasier and the Foreman fight) . I always watched every televised bout at that time that I could(not many received trans Atlantic coverage).

He was the the best heavyweight ever imho, his best years taken away from him, but a clever boxer who could actually box and was lightning fast. No other boxer had his wherewithal, character, wit and charm. He was around a long time, and still won some big fights against men much younger despite his age brain and cognitive decline showing. It was a big shame what happened to him, but I suppose he wouldn't have swapped it ? He was a bright light in a very dark time for America.

What Centralscrutinizer said. Absolutely bang on mate
 
asredastheycome said:
Centralscrutinizer said:
My biggest sporting hero outside of Middlesbrough players around that era. I watched nearly all of the 61 bouts on YT, and some 5 or 6 times (especially the 1st Liston fight and the Trilogy with Frasier and the Foreman fight) . I always watched every televised bout at that time that I could(not many received trans Atlantic coverage).

He was the the best heavyweight ever imho, his best years taken away from him, but a clever boxer who could actually box and was lightning fast. No other boxer had his wherewithal, character, wit and charm. He was around a long time, and still won some big fights against men much younger despite his age brain and cognitive decline showing. It was a big shame what happened to him, but I suppose he wouldn't have swapped it ? He was a bright light in a very dark time for America.

What Centralscrutinizer said. Absolutely bang on mate
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I think mercury_redstone said it. I just posted the picture of Ali 👍
 
Support Your Local Team said:
Am the first to admit I've never seen SRR fight but ever since I was a kid I always wondered how someone losing 19 times and losing (on average) 1 in every 10 fights could be considered that good?

I would need some detail really.
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Sugar Ray Robinson is credited with being the reason for the creation of the mythical pound-for-pound rankings that today occupy so much of the debate and discussion that goes on in the boxing world.

Robinson's run is truly remarkable. He was undefeated as an amateur fighter, winning all 85 of his fights, and wasn't defeated until he faced Jake LaMotta in his 41st pro fight. That's a stretch of 126 straight victories and would be unheard of today.

Robinson won the welterweight title in 1946 and held on to it until he jumped to middleweight and took the title there from LaMotta, avenging the earlier defeat.

Sugar Ray spent two-and-a-half years in retirement after failing in his attempt to capture the light heavyweight title from Joey Maxim in 1952. When he returned, he once again captured the middleweight title, something he'd do five times in his illustrious career.

Reading Sugar Ray Robinson's record, you'd think you stumbled into a who's who of fighters during this era. And this era was on par with, and probably superior to, any in boxing history.

He fought, and beat, literally everyone.

Jake LaMotta, Carmen Basilio, Gene Fullmer, Randy Turpin, Carl "Bobo" Olson, Henry Armstrong, Rocky Graziano, Kid Gavilan.

Robinson beat them all, and he did it with speed, a tremendous jab and power in both hands. There wasn't a punch in the arsenal he couldn't throw and throw with bad intentions.

There will never be another like him.
 
Best British p4p - joe calzaghe
Best British heavyweight- lennox lewis
Worlds best heavyweight - Ali
Worlds best p4p - sugar ray robinson

My fave boxers
Roy Jones
Floyd mayweather
Marvin hagler
 
Centralscrutinizer said:
Sugar Ray Robinson is credited with being the reason for the creation of the mythical pound-for-pound rankings that today occupy so much of the debate and discussion that goes on in the boxing world.

Robinson's run is truly remarkable. He was undefeated as an amateur fighter, winning all 85 of his fights, and wasn't defeated until he faced Jake LaMotta in his 41st pro fight. That's a stretch of 126 straight victories and would be unheard of today.

Robinson won the welterweight title in 1946 and held on to it until he jumped to middleweight and took the title there from LaMotta, avenging the earlier defeat.

Sugar Ray spent two-and-a-half years in retirement after failing in his attempt to capture the light heavyweight title from Joey Maxim in 1952. When he returned, he once again captured the middleweight title, something he'd do five times in his illustrious career.

Reading Sugar Ray Robinson's record, you'd think you stumbled into a who's who of fighters during this era. And this era was on par with, and probably superior to, any in boxing history.

He fought, and beat, literally everyone.

Jake LaMotta, Carmen Basilio, Gene Fullmer, Randy Turpin, Carl "Bobo" Olson, Henry Armstrong, Rocky Graziano, Kid Gavilan.

Robinson beat them all, and he did it with speed, a tremendous jab and power in both hands. There wasn't a punch in the arsenal he couldn't throw and throw with bad intentions.

There will never be another like him.
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Thanks for that. Lovely synopsis of SRR.
 
As a lot of the posts mention Joe Calzaghe I thought I’d say there is a great documentary about him called “Mr Calzaghe” it’s a really good watch if anyone interested or hasn’t seen might be on Netflix or Amazon I haven’t checked recently, what I took from it was how instrumental his dad was he was some guy and had some wacky ideas when it came to boxing but clearly worked was amazing to see there relationship.

Great thread this one I’ve enjoyed reading different views. UTB
 
Obviously not the best but I always enjoyed watching Chris Eubank back in the day. Great to watch,great technique and tactics and that comeback against Michael Watson when the fight was lost is memorable in good and bad ways.
 
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