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NorthumberlandBoro
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The only big club in the east/west midlands.
He'll have to get past his big brother to get into their team!
Steer
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Yep, my Villa supporting friend said much the same. He thinks that Ramsey is going nowhere, and have high hopes for him. But there is no way into their team for Archer - so perhaps we might be able to get him on a permanent deal if we do go up?
TheHolgate
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I remember when they used to hate us for coming and cherry picking their best players - Ehiogu, Boateng, Southgate
weemoby
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Football tends to be a bit cyclical outside of the 'top clubs' doesn't it?
So hopefully soon enough, top flight teams will be loaning our younger players again.
Lefty
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If I was a Villa fan I'd be very unhappy if their club didn't give Archer a chance next season. He's gone out on loan to two championship clubs and done well at both. He has done everything he could to earn being looked at at the next level up before being sold. Still very young and he will probably get stronger. Quality strikers cost a fortune and don't grow on trees, it would be criminal to jettison one who cost nothing, is a local lad, who has passed every test so far, without making sure he wasn't good enough.
h_m_boro
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Completely agree.
Unfortunately the way modern football is set up, instant success is needed. If Villa finish the season well, they will probably be in Europe. If they are, the expectations will rise massively. Expectations rise, so do expected quality of signings.
So Archer, in a sane world, will go back to Villa on the back of two very successful loan spells and be slowly integrated into the first team. However in football world you would expect Villa to splash the cash on another quality forward to play alongside Watkins pushing Archer down the pecking order. Archer going back as the new striking hope for next season, will the fans be happy?
Will he be happy to be a bit part player? A Carabao Cup starter? Few mins here and there in the PL. Or will he want to start week in week out
Love him back here for the full season, but can't get my hopes up.
Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret
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Pick him up on a bamford. Wait until he's had a couple of unproductive premier League loans. His value will drop. Pick him up for peanuts. Then buy someone much worse but twice as expensive and sell archer to a promotion rival for peanuts. That's how it's done.
Richyboro
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And Glover, Kerr and Burke!
HolgateCorner
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Archer is top class, needs only half a chance to put it in the net.Completely agree.
Unfortunately the way modern football is set up, instant success is needed. If Villa finish the season well, they will probably be in Europe. If they are, the expectations will rise massively. Expectations rise, so do expected quality of signings.
So Archer, in a sane world, will go back to Villa on the back of two very successful loan spells and be slowly integrated into the first team. However in football world you would expect Villa to splash the cash on another quality forward to play alongside Watkins pushing Archer down the pecking order. Archer going back as the new striking hope for next season, will the fans be happy?
Will he be happy to be a bit part player? A Carabao Cup starter? Few mins here and there in the PL. Or will he want to start week in week out
Love him back here for the full season, but can't get my hopes up.
He is one of the very few players who come along who get near or into the box and starts to bear down directly onto the defender to create space for a shot.
He could develop into a top player, if we have half a chance of getting him we should take it.
TheYorkshireTerrier
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We can’t, in the PL you can only have one loan at a time from another PL club, so it would have to be one of the other.
and Kevin Poole
uncle_rico
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and Adama Traore
Badonde
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I was a bit annoyed by Villa in the Champo.
IIRC they were very close to financial meltdown only recently?
Then 2 of the richest men in the world rock up (1 middle eastern IIRC) and they just threw money at it.
Rumours that Tammy Abraham (on loan from Chelski) on a flat £60k weekly wage but with £30k goal bonus
Just a bit annoying. I know we enjoyed a similar boost from Gibson's money back in the day but the money now fooks me off.
As another poster mentioned earlier nicking Boateng, Southgate and Eghiogu off them back in the day was funny!
IIRC they were very close to financial meltdown only recently?
Then 2 of the richest men in the world rock up (1 middle eastern IIRC) and they just threw money at it.
Rumours that Tammy Abraham (on loan from Chelski) on a flat £60k weekly wage but with £30k goal bonus
Just a bit annoying. I know we enjoyed a similar boost from Gibson's money back in the day but the money now fooks me off.
As another poster mentioned earlier nicking Boateng, Southgate and Eghiogu off them back in the day was funny!
I never get my head around them selling us the spine of a really good team. They are arguably 3 of our Best Buy’s ever
The Believer
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nor can I mate. As a Villa fan it was what happened though under Deadly Doug Ellis. When we could have pushed on he stopped the spending and then all of a sudden we lost three of our strongest players.