Assisted dying discussion

Ian Bairds Ears

Ian Bairds Ears

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Just wanted to ask for your opinions on this very important topic recently through its 2nd reading in the house of Lords.

It is a topic I care about passionately and actively support /campaign for...

I've had some exchanges with baroness meacher who is championing the bill and she was so very courteous and responsive to chat
I'll start by saying I obviously feel that the manner In which a person dies should be decided upon by that person if they are suffering intolerable cruelty in the throes of death
Had awful experience with .my own dads departure and I for one know that we don't allow our pets to suffer In such a manner on the whole so why would we allow humans to suffer as such

There is a petition online and a Facebook group a assisted dying In the UK if anyone wishes to get behind it....
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But as a straw poll can I ask who is for and against this in principle.
It would require 2 doctors and a high court judge to agree and the person must have less than 6 months to live plus mental capacity

Thank you all and obviously
Up the f@@@@@@ boro which is a form of assisted dying in its own right 😊
 
100% should be an option. Very cruel that it isn't in this country.

Of course there are a million moral arguments and nuances to each case.

But it needs to be an option, it can bring hope to the hopeless.
 
Agree. Nobody should go through what my dad did with Mesothelioma. I also think it should be an option for early dementia sufferers to make that call, even if they have got longer than 6 months to live. I know if I get it, I won't be around to burden my loved ones when it becomes impossible to manage. Such a cruel syndrome.
 
Having watched my wife in severe pain for the last 6 weeks of her life, listening to her saying she's done, she wants to go. Watching her suffer for absolutely no gain to anyone. I just don't see why people shouldn't have the right to choose when to go.

Safeguards can be created, mental health checks, but if people are already terminal then morally it should have been no one elses business but my wifes, but some moral code created by grey men in grey suits says she had to suffer.

I'm 100% behind assisted dying, with the correct safeguards, of secondary medical prognosis of terminal, mental health checks, validation of no coercion, protection of life insurance status (because we know what they'll bloody do to gain more profit).
 
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Ian Bairds Ears said:
Just wanted to ask for your opinions on this very important topic recently through its 2nd reading in the house of Lords.

It is a topic I care about passionately and actively support /campaign for...

I've had some exchanges with baroness meacher who is championing the bill and she was so very courteous and responsive to chat
I'll start by saying I obviously feel that the manner In which a person dies should be decided upon by that person if they are suffering intolerable cruelty in the throes of death
Had awful experience with .my own dads departure and I for one know that we don't allow our pets to suffer In such a manner on the whole so why would we allow humans to suffer as such

There is a petition online and a Facebook group a assisted dying In the UK if anyone wishes to get behind it....
👍
But as a straw poll can I ask who is for and against this in principle.
It would require 2 doctors and a high court judge to agree and the person must have less than 6 months to live plus mental capacity

Thank you all and obviously
Up the f@@@@@@ boro which is a form of assisted dying in its own right 😊
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I'm For and agree with Gains. ( even longer than 6 months )
 
When my Mum was in hospital with dementia, they offered a pathway withdrawing food and drink. This speeded up her passing. Is this still an option ?

I think we all have a right to end our life whenever we want. I suffer with mental health, but am able to differentiate between a cry for help and a proper intent to kill myself. If I wanted to, I can ride my motorbike into oncoming traffic, however I dont want to affect other people. So give me the ability to pop a pill when I choose to end my life.
 
Boro in Devon said:
When my Mum was in hospital with dementia, they offered a pathway withdrawing food and drink. This speeded up her passing. Is this still an option
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Sadly, I know from first hand experience that this is still an option (sadly, not because I disagree with it, completely the opposite, but because it was the only option available in a British hospital).

I am definitely in favour of it and I am sorry to read other posters similarly sad stories relating to the end of life care of loved ones.

Take care one and all, and UTB!
 
I am in favour of assisted dying. I do not want to die a lingering death.
I have had a discussion with my wife about it and she knows how I feel .
I would definitley go to another country to do this if it was not an option here.
 
Boro in Devon said:
When my Mum was in hospital with dementia, they offered a pathway withdrawing food and drink. This speeded up her passing. Is this still an option ?

I think we all have a right to end our life whenever we want. I suffer with mental health, but am able to differentiate between a cry for help and a proper intent to kill myself. If I wanted to, I can ride my motorbike into oncoming traffic, however I dont want to affect other people. So give me the ability to pop a pill when I choose to end my life.
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Yes it’s still an option. My mum was on “end of life care” back on August when they stopped all treatment and food and water.

I had 6 days visiting her and watched her slowly fade away. Incredibly difficult when you know they have no chance to pull through and you are just waiting for the end. Had lots of discussions with doctors, nurses and other staff on assisted dying during those days at mums bedside too.

What I learnt from the experience of both my brother and mum is that I’m not afraid of dying, I’m afraid of suffering.
 
I don't agree with it tbh, I think Drs should concentrate on saving lives & not offing people.
Are we going to posthumously pardon Dr Shipman?
It would require 2 doctors and a high court judge to agree and the person must have less than 6 months to live plus mental capacity.
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At what age would you stop someone consenting? 18, 16, younger?
Is it fair to let kids suffer through to their death when you are letting older people chose their method of death?
 
@newusername you find it amusing. People on here have mentioned watching loved ones die, and you think its some F***ing joke, and an excuse to throw stupid logical gymnastics, you utter embarrassing excuse for a human, blocked
 
Should be a personal choice, made, recorded and witnessed by a doctor and legal person after you have been assessed as being of sound mind.
I remember watching that TV prog. showing the very personal process the Campbell soup heir went through to end his life with the assisted suicide programme they sought abroad. The measured discussions he and his wife had, amazing. He didn't want her to see the hurt of his painful dying, she loved him so much and didn't want to see him suffer.
 
As someone who lost their mam to suicide, battling lupus all her life I think the option of assisted death would have had a discussion point for the family. My man lived 2 hours away, locked away her problems and stuggles to get the correct help. If she told us that she wanted to end it legally, it would have done one 2 things I imagine

1. prolonged her life as it prompted the right help

or

2. Helped the family understand the pain she was in and help accept the death (still struggle 10 years on)
 
Yes and Yes.
Based on a negative and a positive event. My mother living, in pain, well beyond the time she wanted too.
The positive. A friend’s uplifting story of being with his wife’s family ( she’s Dutch) when saying goodbye to her father.
Although those two events just confirmed my long held belief.
 
I'm fully for it. Why shouldn't a person have the right to die with dignity if they are dying or knowing they are going to have an illness that will require 24hrs painful care for the rest of their life😕

Clearly it would need to be done properly as in several doctors signing off on it. You could see how it could be abused with family members just wanting shot of people for inheritance or because they are a burden etc (it would happen)

I think you should have the right to die. Just as long as you are fit enough to make that decision. Who gives a stranger the right to say you can't?

If you are already diagnosed with a terminal illness then you should he able to 'move things along' to save the pain / expense of care and family heartache watching you get worse.

I would want it done in a medical environment.

I watched a documentary about it in a few US states were it is legal. The doctor basically sends you two bottles in the post and you can do it when you want with family around etc. Just drink one and the other 30 mins later. The first one puts you to sleep and the other basically stops you breathing. You know nothing about. I guess that's a bit 'extreme'.
 
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