And JC was supposed to be a terrorist sympathiser!!!

[BlindBoyGrunt]

Wrong, they both are wrong ‘un‘s as far as political leadership goes I’d suggest.

As for the rest of that, you will no doubt find some tories repeating the same narrative about Johnson and negative propaganda. People interpret the evidence and spin it to what suits them and their personal beliefs.

To suggest people believe everything that they read, hear and see of what one man or a group call propaganda, is simply nonsense too, a few might but not all. Same with all the idiots calling brexiteer‘s as racist or thick or easily manipulated. Anything that doesn’t suit another's views follows that same route. A leader that does not answer questions and evades them is not to be trusted (see Johnson too)

I'm not suggesting that everybody believes everything they ever read, but that propaganda requires a critical mass of (willing) believers to have it's desired effect. Everything in my post about Johnson is true. He did all of those things and more. However, two years after Corbyn stood down there is still a concerted effort to paint him as the pro Putin guy when in actual fact he was one of - if not the - earliest opponents. He was warning us about Putin in 2000 and 2001 when Blair was bringing him over here to meet the Queen.

February 2000: Jeremy Corbyn protests against Putin's brutal war in Chechnya:-



March 2000: Tony Blair praises Putin as an impressive man with a clear vision:-



Blair
Johnson
Corbyn

If you asked the man in the street who was the Kremlin stooge I wonder what the result would be?

 

[Jedi boro]

protests

Exactly he’s a protestor not a leader.

 

[Jonny Ingbar]

So you don’t think we are nato then as after the US we are the second highest net contributors.

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Of course we part of NATO, that's a matter of fact.

It's your views on JC I don't agree with.

 

[Ziggy]

He was never going to win a general election

He was never going to be “allowed” to win a General Election.

 

[Hew Jarse]

Exactly he’s a protestor not a leader.

What makes them mutually exclusive? History is littered with leaders who protested. Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King Jr….

 

[coluka]

He was never going to be “allowed” to win a General Election.

And that’s not opinion masquerading as fact I presume.

 

[Steve8778]

I'd rather have voted for count bin face than Jeremy corbum

 

[NYboro]

I'd rather have voted for count bin face than Jeremy corbum

Presumably why we have the bunch of tossers in power now.

 

[Trug]

Corbyn invited two convicted terrorists into Parliament a few weeks after their terrorist group attemted to kill as many members of the government as possible by exploding a bomb in The Grand Hotel. He is either a complete imbecile or a total c*nt or most likely both.

Whereas Thatcher actually gave a convicted IRA terrorist a pardon just months after the Brighton bomb

Thatcher granted Royal pardon to IRA man | The Irish Post

Margaret Thatcher granted a royal pardon to a convicted IRA man just months after she survived an IRA assassination attempt

www.irishpost.com

She also said she would never talk to the IRA- but in fact that is exactly what she did

Margaret Thatcher 'negotiated with IRA'

Files just released by the National Archives show Margaret Thatcher took part in negotiations with the IRA during the 1981 Hunger Strikes, BBC investigative journalist Peter Taylor says.

www.bbc.co.uk

And let's not forget about Thatchers friend Pinochet who was responsible for the torture and murder of millions of his own people.
So BoroBosco- compared to Thatcher- Corbyn is a saint.

 

[Steve8778]

Presumably why we have the bunch of tossers in power now.

How do you arrive at that conclusion?

 

[Trug]

And that’s not opinion masquerading as fact I presume.

Army generals before the GE had been quoted as saying that if Corbyn had won they would have staged a coup against him.

 

[Steve8778]

Army generals before the GE had been quoted as saying that if Corbyn had won they would have staged a coup against him.

Hardly surprising considering that the potential to leave nato and scrap trident was on the table.

 

[coluka]

Army generals before the GE had been quoted as saying that if Corbyn had won they would have staged a coup against him.

Would have or might do? I remember seeing something in the independent where it was allegedly discussed. Maybe MI5 and the MOD are all Tories In more propaganda news.
Troops on the streets of Westminster and General Sir Mark Carleton-Smith as our new head of state maybe Nailed on. Oooooh wait maybe they have documents to justify it. Britain ceases to be a democracy, seriously, you believe it would have actually happened? Surely not !

 

[BlindBoyGrunt]

Hardly surprising considering that the potential to leave nato and scrap trident was on the table.

I can't express how surprising a military coup, or even the threat of one would be in a modern European nation.
On the table means up for discussion and that's how we (used to) do things here. It's the democratic way.

 

[r00fie1]

No answer ???

I said he was unelectable and he was, I said at the time I still it now he never won an Election.

Sticking with an unelectable leader led to one of the biggest Tory landslides in post war history.

So where’s your counter argument.

Neither did Kinnock Milliband, Brown, Smith......

 

[Trug]

Would have or might do? I remember seeing something in the independent where it was allegedly discussed. Maybe MI5 and the MOD are all Tories In more propaganda news.
Troops on the streets of Westminster and General Sir Mark Carleton-Smith as our new head of state maybe Nailed on. Oooooh wait maybe they have documents to justify it. Britain ceases to be a democracy, seriously, you believe it would have actually happened? Surely not !

It doesn't matter whether I believe it could have happened or not. The fact is an Army general publicly stated this and nothing was done about it. Nobody questioned it. No action was taken against the general as far as I know.

General States that Army Would Mutiny against Jeremy Corbyn

The Independent yesterday carried a bizarre story about the claim by an unnamed general that the armed forces would revolt if Jeremy Corbyn became Prime Minister. The article began There would be v…

beastrabban.wordpress.com

 

[Steve8778]

It doesn't matter whether I believe it could have happened or not. The fact is Army generals publicly stated this and nothing was done about it. Nobody questioned it.

It was anonymous so they didn't publicly state it. It could have been made up for all we know.

 

[coluka]

Whereas Thatcher actually gave a convicted IRA terrorist a pardon just months after the Brighton bomb

Thatcher granted Royal pardon to IRA man | The Irish Post

Margaret Thatcher granted a royal pardon to a convicted IRA man just months after she survived an IRA assassination attempt

www.irishpost.com

She also said she would never talk to the IRA- but in fact that is exactly what she did

Margaret Thatcher 'negotiated with IRA'

Files just released by the National Archives show Margaret Thatcher took part in negotiations with the IRA during the 1981 Hunger Strikes, BBC investigative journalist Peter Taylor says.

www.bbc.co.uk

And let's not forget about Thatchers friend Pinochet who was responsible for the torture and murder of millions of his own people.
So BoroBosco- compared to Thatcher- Corbyn is a saint.

Here is the report I read

British Army 'could stage mutiny under Corbyn', says senior serving general

Generals would not 'allow a prime minister to jeopardise the security of the UK'

www.independent.co.uk

I too was sickened by his comment that McDonnell had to apologise for. He was talking about if he downgraded UK forces (defence capability etc) which all his supporters claimed he wouldn’t as it wasn’t policy. All smoke and mirrors.
Do you think him right wanting to honour IRA members like Bobby Sands? I hope not.

 

[Trug]

Here is the report I read

British Army 'could stage mutiny under Corbyn', says senior serving general

Generals would not 'allow a prime minister to jeopardise the security of the UK'

www.independent.co.uk

I too was sickened by his comment that McDonnell had to apologise for. He was talking about if he downgraded UK forces (defence capability etc) which all his supporters claimed he wouldn’t as it wasn’t policy. All smoke and mirrors.
Do you think him right wanting to honour IRA members like Bobby Sands? I hope not.

Of course not. I did two tours of NI at the height of the troubles in the 70's. I have no love for the IRA believe me.
I started the thread to show the double standards of the media and how they have influenced people. Corbyn invites IRA members to parliament so must be a terrorist sympathiser- Thatcher talks to them, negotiates with them and pardons one of them but she is not a terrorist sympathiser.

 

[zzzzz]

Corbyn is the reason we have these clowns in government. The OP is a pathetic attempt to try and deflect from that.
Corbyn was an IRA apologist and anti NATO. Thank god he's not in the chair now. We'd be sending arms to Russia.
He's gone. To be remembered as one of the worst politicians for a century if not the worst.
And the reason we have Boris Truss and Dorries