Amad Diallo

[GibbosEmpire]

If the shirt comes off maybe they have to sit on the sideline for a minute or something like that

 

[TheYorkshireTerrier]

You can celebrate without taking your shirt off. Probably won’t do him any favours with ten Hag.

 

[Marvanelli]

He misses Man Utd's league game against Brentford.

 

[Tryasize10]

Why have they changed it to competition specific? Makes no sense, ok European competition etc but the punishment just doesn't fit the crime, especially for a young player.

It's like two yellow cards in separate games leading to a tournament suspension. Bonkers rule

 

[Tryasize10]

He misses Man Utd's league game against Brentford.

I hope this is the case but someone has said they have changed it to competition specific bans

 

[Teesside_Steel]

I always thought it was because football rules have to be standard for all football. Meaning they’re the same for women’s football too. Women not being allowed to bare their chest, for obvious reason. (Not that they would).

No idea where I got that impression from.

 

[sherlock]

He misses next league game, not the semi.

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[RedcarRed]

What is the origin of the rule? It seems totally pointless giving a player a booking for celebration.

In 1864 a striker named t*ts McGee scored a last minute winner in an I'll tempered, blood and thunder derby. He celebrated by taking his top off, whilst running, unleashing his enormous swinging, dangling moobs !! Everybody was vomiting at the sight and people were actually furious about it as well, like properly upset. Who wouldn't be !
This is where the rule originated. Ruined it for everybody.

 

[boringblock_21]

What is the origin of the rule? It seems totally pointless giving a player a booking for celebration.

Wasn’t it Forlan playing for Man Utd against Southampton that caused uproar? I think he scored, took his shirt off then couldn’t get it back on again. Either delayed the restart or ended up playing without his shirt?

Edit: I think he might have done it twice, once where he played shirtless and another time he delayed the restart

 

[wilkos_perm]

Originally it was something to do with sponsors I think. I might be totally wrong but it was because it tends to be the most photographed or shown part of the match back in the day. Sure it came in when Ravanelli signed for us, he ended up getting round it by wearing Cellnet on his vest.

I dont think that was ever true, the premier league/FA dont care about individual club shirt sponsors.
I think it was more about the frequent faff around and time wasting that followed retrieving the shirt, getting it back on etc?

 

[Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret]

What is the origin of the rule? It seems totally pointless giving a player a booking for celebration.

It was to make sure no one ever had to see Ryan Giggs with his shirt off again.

 

[chickenrunner]

I always thought it was because football rules have to be standard for all football. Meaning they’re the same for women’s football too. Women not being allowed to bare their chest, for obvious reason. (Not that they would).

No idea where I got that impression from.

Ahem....................

 

[290204]

I’m pretty sure it’s much more recent than that - mid 2000’s and if I remember correctly it was to do with time wasting essentially and getting the game restarted as soon as possible.

The commentary on either ravanellis debut or another game early on in the season said something like he would get in trouble because you're not actually allowed to "bare your chest this season", so it definitely came in that long ago although may have been amended to mean even if something is worn underneath it was still penalised.

 

[Teesside_Steel]

Ahem....................
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[Normanby top]

On a yellow, and scores in the last minute and takes his shirt off when he celebrates...obviously got a red, does he get banned for the next game or final, or both?

Should send him off for wearing a man u shirt

 

[BobUpnDown]

Thought it was brought in to stop - messages - being displayed, esp political..

They all know they will get a card - if they are too thick to process that thought, double the ban

 

[Muttley]

It might have got mixed in with political messages on t-shirts at some point too but I don't think that was the original reason.

I've always suspected the real reason it that the sponsor's name is removed from the celebration. Can't have that those shiny shirts won't sell themselves. Up the corporate dollar and all that.

 

[Marvanelli]

I hope this is the case but someone has said they have changed it to competition specific bans

They changed it for yellows to avoid players taking 'tactical' yellow cards when close to a suspension.

So if you get 2 yellows in the FA Cup, then they'll serve a suspension in the next round of the FA Cup

But red cards carry over in the league.

 

[Paintolerance]

I always thought it was because football rules have to be standard for all football. Meaning they’re the same for women’s football too. Women not being allowed to bare their chest, for obvious reason. (Not that they would).

No idea where I got that impression from.

And I thought it was to do with some oddity where in certain countries, the removal of a shirt would be considered offensive. As FIFA require standardised rules, it was applied to all.

That may be a figment of my fevered imagination though.

 

[FishofContemplation]

And I thought it was to do with some oddity where in certain countries, the removal of a shirt would be considered offensive. As FIFA require standardised rules, it was applied to all.

That may be a figment of my fevered imagination though.

That’s ringing a bell with me as well now that you’ve mentioned it. Or at least, that in some countries it would be seen as more provocative to the fans than perhaps it is here. I definitely remember them being concerned about the provocative aspect.

It’s totally unnecessary. It only really started to spread as a widespread gimmick in the 1990s, although there were isolated incident of undressing, including the alternative of ”doing a Sammy Nelson” before then. It’s been a yellow card for a generation at least so I really have no sympathy.