Aliens are among us says former Israeli space security chief

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HolgateCorner said:
I’m not sure about ghosts because I know some very reliable people who say they have seen them but aliens? No chance.
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I think I’m more inclined to believe there are other life forms out there than in ghosts. It’s funny how we all view things differently.

by the way, Hundredroom, there was no call for that comment. Out of order there fella.
 
Appreciate the post coming down. Not sure what the intention was though other than to **** me off or cause offence? Did you think I would find that funny?

Can stick your apology
 
coluka said:
Of course life will exist elsewhere, Most humans are just not advanced enough to see or comprehend it. I have long since believed in alien life and believe we are visited from afar. I think the guy is right that most folk are not ready to deal with the concept and have been fed far too many misconceptions through books and films. I dread to think how some would react if encountered. I do think governments around the world are getting closer to opening up on this subject as it can’t be continually swept under the carpet as technology increases and sightings are much harder to deflect. Not sure how it will affect the Bosman ruling though.
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Agree 100%.
 
coluka said:
Of course life will exist elsewhere, Most humans are just not advanced enough to see or comprehend it. I have long since believed in alien life and believe we are visited from afar. I think the guy is right that most folk are not ready to deal with the concept and have been fed far too many misconceptions through books and films. I dread to think how some would react if encountered. I do think governments around the world are getting closer to opening up on this subject as it can’t be continually swept under the carpet as technology increases and sightings are much harder to deflect. Not sure how it will affect the Bosman ruling though.
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"I have long since believed in alien life and believe we are visited from afar."

Doesn't have to be from afar. My mate Bish puts forward a strong theoretical case for the Multi-Dimensional, Multi Universe theory.
If I knew more,well anything, about Quantum Theory, I might even have begun to understand a word he said.😉
 
Ziggy said:
"I have long since believed in alien life and believe we are visited from afar."

Doesn't have to be from afar. My mate Bish puts forward a strong theoretical case for the Multi-Dimensional, Multi Universe theory.
If I knew more,well anything, about Quantum Theory, I might even have begun to understand a word he said.😉
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Well, in my defence, Tynemouth is afar to me 😉
 
coluka said:
Of course life will exist elsewhere, Most humans are just not advanced enough to see or comprehend it. I have long since believed in alien life and believe we are visited from afar. I think the guy is right that most folk are not ready to deal with the concept and have been fed far too many misconceptions through books and films. I dread to think how some would react if encountered. I do think governments around the world are getting closer to opening up on this subject as it can’t be continually swept under the carpet as technology increases and sightings are much harder to deflect. Not sure how it will affect the Bosman ruling though.
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The one issue I see with this is the old Fermi 'where are they' conundrum.

Some really interesting thoughts involved in this, given the age of the universe we should be able to detect alien life in various form including seeing stars disappear as they are surrounded by devices to harness their power etc. Basically even with today's technology humanity could completely colonise our galaxy in 50,000,000 years a blip in the age of the universe. So for us to not have picked anything up by now is frankly terrifying.

The options I see are:-

Governments covering stuff up (pretty big job with all the astronomy going on around the world)
We're the most advanced (very narcissistic viewpoint)
All civilisations basically get wiped out before they become a stage 2 civilisation (great filter)
Or there's a big bad out there (Thanos style) that makes all advanced civilisation completely hide themselves including not even sending out radio waves etc (unlikely I know).

Mind bending stuff
 
Ziggy said:
"I have long since believed in alien life and believe we are visited from afar."

Doesn't have to be from afar. My mate Bish puts forward a strong theoretical case for the Multi-Dimensional, Multi Universe theory.
If I knew more,well anything, about Quantum Theory, I might even have begun to understand a word he said.😉
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That's a whole different ball game as well, quantum theory is absolutely bonkers in the best ways.
 
Alvez_48 said:
The one issue I see with this is the old Fermi 'where are they' conundrum.

Some really interesting thoughts involved in this, given the age of the universe we should be able to detect alien life in various form including seeing stars disappear as they are surrounded by devices to harness their power etc. Basically even with today's technology humanity could completely colonise our galaxy in 50,000,000 years a blip in the age of the universe. So for us to not have picked anything up by now is frankly terrifying.

The options I see are:-

Governments covering stuff up (pretty big job with all the astronomy going on around the world)
We're the most advanced (very narcissistic viewpoint)
All civilisations basically get wiped out before they become a stage 2 civilisation (great filter)
Or there's a big bad out there (Thanos style) that makes all advanced civilisation completely hide themselves including not even sending out radio waves etc (unlikely I know).

Mind bending stuff
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It is mind bending stuff unless you are like me and think we are alone as a complete accident of nature.

My one caveat is that the reproductive cell could have been planted here 3.5 billion years ago. According to the DNA scientists everything on earth came from that cell, so I can see the argument that it was possibly brought in from elsewhere.
 
Ziggy said:
"I have long since believed in alien life and believe we are visited from afar."

Doesn't have to be from afar. My mate Bish puts forward a strong theoretical case for the Multi-Dimensional, Multi Universe theory.
If I knew more,well anything, about Quantum Theory, I might even have begun to understand a word he said.😉
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Quantum theory whilst allowing for multi universes absolutely forbids the transfer of energy from one universe to another. This means that matter cannot pass between them. Secondly and just as importantly, it allows for multi universes but doesn't require them. Multi universes theory comes from a single observed phenomona. The duality of particles and the simple fact that observing them can change the past.

There is very probably an alternative theory that explains this, for example the illusion of time.

Brian Cox talked about the liklihood of intelligent civilisations on other exo-planets on the josh rorgan pod cast. He thinks it's quite unlikely although life is an almost certainty, just not as complex as human life.
 
NorthumberlandBoro said:
Has there ever been, anywhere in the world, any concrete physical evidence of alien life?
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Well, given that Governments wont release such information if it exists, its a question that the typical mooner wont be able to answer with any factual truth. It may exist, it may not, I think it does, but I can not prove it, just like nobody can prove it doesn’t exist.
 
There's life out there, somewhere. The issue is the distances that need to be travelled to find it. Even at light speed it would take hundreds, or thousands of years to find it, and that's if we knew where to look. An American physicist said at the weekend that it would be much more complex than finding a particular grain of sand, which is somewhere on Earth, including the oceans.

Before anyone starts mentioning wormholes etc, no, these are just theoretical concepts.
 
Nope, I always find it strange that these supposed Aliens need to see the Govt, and then the Govt then hide what they know....you would have to be struggling upstairs to believe this.
The distance the nearest star systems are to far for anything with mass to travel at the speed of light or even near to it, so looking at the science so far it can't happen.
All this UFO bunkem and visits by superfast space ships is fun to read or watch on You Tube.
We have to use not just super science to reach places with a Rosen Bridge theory or Science fiction to change our bodies to cope with with what it would take to travel.
I enjoy watching and reading science theory shows and also visit the NASA sites and it's projects past and present.
People seem more interested in all the woo woo than watching and learning fact from NASA.
 
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ticker_tape said:
Nope, I always find it strange that these supposed Aliens need to see the Govt, and then the Govt then hide what they know....you would have to be struggling upstairs to believe this.
The distance the nearest star systems are to far for anything with mass to travel at the speed of light or even near to it, so looking at the science so far it can't happen.
All this UFO bunkem and visits by superfast space ships is fun to read or watch on You Tube.
We have to use not just super science to reach places with a Rosen Bridge theory or Science fiction to change our bodies to cope with with what it would take to travel.
I enjoy watching and reading science theory shows and also visit the NASA sites and it's projects past and present.
People seem more interested in all the woo woo than watching and learning fact from NASA.
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With current rocket technology it would take 114,000 years to reach the nearest star, Alpha Centuri, I think. Brian Cox has also talked about this too, and we could, with enough money build rockets that could travel at about a 10th the speed of light which would mean it would take 40 years for the same Journey. We need to get to about half the speed of light to make the journey feasable and you would be slamming on the anchors about half a light year away so you didn't just shoot past.
 
Laughing said:
Quantum theory whilst allowing for multi universes absolutely forbids the transfer of energy from one universe to another. This means that matter cannot pass between them. Secondly and just as importantly, it allows for multi universes but doesn't require them. Multi universes theory comes from a single observed phenomona. The duality of particles and the simple fact that observing them can change the past.

There is very probably an alternative theory that explains this, for example the illusion of time.

Brian Cox talked about the liklihood of intelligent civilisations on other exo-planets on the josh rorgan pod cast. He thinks it's quite unlikely although life is an almost certainty, just not as complex as human life.
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Pity you can't have this conversation with my friend. He, when asked always maintains we know so little about what surrounds us and emphasises that theories are only that. Given present knowledge.
He's a scientist. Among other things that he does. He's one those people who is responsible for send various vehicles out there "To infinity and beyond" or more mundane destinations.
One of the most interesting people I've ever met. The best conversation I 'never' got to have with him was something he said in a brief meeting in a car park, when mentioned that he had been thinking a lot about gravity...and perhaps it wasn't exactly what we think it is.
Haven't seen him for sometime. Though he often 'disappears ' for long periods when he's working on a project.
 
I was asked to join a society , my dad said in my ear ' don't be daft son' he had been dead 10 years.

I don't believe in the paranormal but do get the déjà vu moments.

One thing about these aliens why do they always land in the US?
 
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