Wiseman_Vaughn
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We were certainly at the height of our powers with him in the team and we've looked lightweight ever since (apart from the brief LL flurry of goals).
Akpom only got a 4K/week rise for moving to Ajax
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MichaelDebeve
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Regardless…… he’s not coming back
Emmersons_BrazillianDong
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Amsterdam is safer than Middlesbrough from a crime perspective and violent crime is lower on a per capita basis too.
Cleveland is the most violent place in the country. The Gazette report on this semi regularly.
I wish Chuba well. That ship has sailed though
Jan_Aage_Fjortoft
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Cleveland isn't the most violent area of the country.
Unfortunately knife crime is 3rd in the country in the Police area for the past year. Thanks to work from people like The Chris Cave Foundation (partners in Middlesbrough's No More Red campaign) knife crime has actually dropped one place from 2nd to 3rd in the national league table - as The Chris Cave Foundation say this represents saved lives.
Hopefully, we can build on Saturday's match exposure to get more training and prevention with young people to reduce this knife crime still further. That is the idea, direct intervention to prevent offending and reoffending.
Emmersons_BrazillianDong
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I won't argue over the semantics Rob. I can see in the Strategic Needs Assessment released by the PCC that Cleveland was second, but they are using data from 2017-2022.
Violence in Cleveland - Cleveland Police and Crime Commissioner
CURV commissioned a Strategic Needs Assessment to understand the scale, nature and drivers of violent crime in Cleveland.
www.cleveland.pcc.police.uk
The ONS data was quoted in this article from Feb of this year.
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/teesside-tops-uk-list-violent-28429079
I hope things have improved. But whichever way you cut the cake, the people of Middlesbrough and Teesside deserve better.
Work by foundations like you mention do incredible work and make a tangible difference to communities. I have worked closely with the Ben Kinsella Trust for a time. A very worthy cause.
This is a public health issue and requires the same kind of approach with all agencies and communities working together.
newusername
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It is an 18% rise in his basic, decent but not crazy.
Yes I appreciate what you are saying and this is your field you know what you are talking about for certain.I won't argue over the semantics Rob. I can see in the Strategic Needs Assessment released by the PCC that Cleveland was second, but they are using data from 2017-2022.
Violence in Cleveland - Cleveland Police and Crime Commissioner
CURV commissioned a Strategic Needs Assessment to understand the scale, nature and drivers of violent crime in Cleveland.
The ONS data was quoted in this article from Feb of this year.
https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/teesside-tops-uk-list-violent-28429079
I hope things have improved. But whichever way you cut the cake, the people of Middlesbrough and Teesside deserve better.
Work by foundations like you mention do incredible work and make a tangible difference to communities. I have worked closely with the Ben Kinsella Trust for a time. A very worthy cause.
This is a public health issue and requires the same kind of approach with all agencies and communities working together.
Actually part of Steve Gibson's argument with the Tees Valley mayor was he wanted a decent percentage of Teesworks windfall that he is certain is coming diverted into youth provision across Teesside.
Yes, the date I am drawing on quoted last week were "statistics are from August 2023 to the end of July 2024."
S7DiscoDown
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To be fair he was one of our highest earners. So it was hardly surprising going to the Dutch league.
We live in a world were some champo players are on 50k+ a week (Bamford). I'm sure I read McNair was on 25k. That's madness if true..
It's one of the reasons we often get lumbered with duds on the payroll until they leave for nothing. Clubs simply can't match what we pay. I imagine Hoppe is very much in that category.
We live in a world were some champo players are on 50k+ a week (Bamford). I'm sure I read McNair was on 25k. That's madness if true..
It's one of the reasons we often get lumbered with duds on the payroll until they leave for nothing. Clubs simply can't match what we pay. I imagine Hoppe is very much in that category.
Emmersons_BrazillianDong
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Gibbo is totally right, there's enough room for private businesses to make good profits whilst also allowing the town to be a benefactor of the money too.
To be fair, I think that's an argument that could be made for the whole country. We should be looking after everybody better.
You don't have to be a raging socialist to suggest there's better balance
parnabyscrosses
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I think they key word here is ‘Holland’.
indeedido
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So disrespectful and not a little ignorant.
Ajax turnover last season fell 44m Euros to 152m Euros.
Ours was £28.6m.
parnabyscrosses
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Are you serious? Disrespectful of what? Get a grip.
Bangersandmash
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Didn't realise Boro was so crime ridden, as well as probably now having the worst retail facilities in the country fora town of it's size now that House of Fraser, M&S, Psyche, Tiads & to a lesser degree Debenhams have all pulled the pin. I took a wander out the HI.Expess in Boro to buy a toothbrush at Savers, on the Sat Morning before the Bristol City game & the place was deserted. Glanced through the doors at the HMV end & I could see right through to the other end where BHS was & must have been less than dozen bodies in my eyeline.