344 covid deaths today

Well they’ve managed to decimate the hospitality industry at the most important time of the year for them, other than that pretty much zero
 
Why are people so desperate to lockdown and blame covid for every death.

Yes, people are dying, but we have to accept that a large portion of these would possibly have died anyway.

People die on a daily basis for a multitude of reasons.

I can't help but feel that without social media and rolling 24 hour news updates that Covid would not be the problem it has become in most peoples minds.

I'm in the clinically vulnerable group so I'm technically the most at risk but I have continued life as normal... There is a belief that I've had Covid twice now but it has not caused me any significant issues.

We have to learn to live with it.
 
Redwurzel said:
I did write in the 1990s - most posters on here are quoting very recent years.

The flu vaccine has reduced deaths since the 1990s and precautions against Covid has reduced flu significantly in the last 2 years.

Flu in the past has been a very big killer. My mum said she thought she was dying in 1957 when she was only 21 with Asian Flu - she was bed ridden for nearly 3 weeks and previously extremely fit and healthy. Her doctor visited her at home with a face mask on. There would be stories a lot of winters about flu epidemics and hospitals filling up with seriously ill, but the World carried on. Some might say immune to the deaths.
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Your figures are still wrong and you've failed to understand the difference between Influenza and pneumonia.

The flu and cold have been around as long a we can remember, this virus is new and deciding that we can suddenly "learn to live with it" (ignore) is dangerously early.
 
ChrisTheRed said:
Why are people so desperate to lockdown and blame covid for every death.

Yes, people are dying, but we have to accept that a large portion of these would possibly have died anyway.

People die on a daily basis for a multitude of reasons.

I can't help but feel that without social media and rolling 24 hour news updates that Covid would not be the problem it has become in most peoples minds.

I'm in the clinically vulnerable group so I'm technically the most at risk but I have continued life as normal... There is a belief that I've had Covid twice now but it has not caused me any significant issues.

We have to learn to live with it.
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Noone mentioned lockdown. This is the default position of turning threads into slinging mud.
 
Chris_Boro said:
The flu and cold have been around as long a we can remember, this virus is new and deciding that we can suddenly "learn to live with it" (ignore) is dangerously early.
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The common cold is derived from the"Russian Flu" of the late 19th century and influenza from the "Spanish Flu", which killed more people than the first world war.

We've had a couple of more severe mutations of the Spanish Flu, most recently in the 90's, so it seems that covid will most likely follow the same path.
 
Jonny Ingbar said:
The common cold is derived from the"Russian Flu" of the late 19th century and influenza from the "Spanish Flu", which killed more people than the first world war.

We've had a couple of more severe mutations of the Spanish Flu, most recently in the 90's, so it seems that covid will most likely follow the same path.
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I think influenza was around long before the Spanish Flu
 
Philly-Red said:
Not really. You know exactly why.
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Really? The previous two days BBC reported figures had been something like 48 and 18 deaths reported (because of the lack of standard reporting over Christmas and New Year). 344 was a catch up figure. We may yet get to a 7 day average figure of 344 with this wave, but currently it's 170. So in that context, the OP did seem to be overstating it.
 
magic said:
I’ll tell you what’s shameful - posting ridiculously overinflated figures on here without adding any context to them. There’s a few lads on here really suffering with mental health issues and posts like this help nobody
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They don't your are right, it may have been a genuine mistake from someone who may not follow the numbers though.
 
I think it's more likely that the OP just saw the headline, and made a post based on that rather than any deliberate attempt to mislead. One thing that I have realised after 2 years of this pandemic is that some people are really interested in the ins-and-outs and understand how all the reporting works and what the impact of different situations is or could be... and others just aren't that bothered and drop in and out.

That's how we end up with the debates like "what about the cancer patients", "what about all the people who tested positive and then didn't die of covid", and threads like this... some people are more informed than others and that's ok. To be honest, even amongst those who are "more informed" there is a wide range of opinions. the reality is that this is a complex situation and we are doing the best we can, but there isn't a 100% correct answer and we have to learn to talk about it without being knobs

edit: one thing the government has been really good with is having all of the data publicly available - both in a high level and accessible way, and at a lower level with a lot more detail for those who want it. If you really are interested in finding out the "real" death and case numbers, it is all there for you to look at.
 
Matt said:
I think it's more likely that the OP just saw the headline, and made a post based on that rather than any deliberate attempt to mislead. One thing that I have realised after 2 years of this pandemic is that some people are really interested in the ins-and-outs and understand how all the reporting works and what the impact of different situations is or could be... and others just aren't that bothered and drop in and out.

That's how we end up with the debates like "what about the cancer patients", "what about all the people who tested positive and then didn't die of covid", and threads like this... some people are more informed than others and that's ok. To be honest, even amongst those who are "more informed" there is a wide range of opinions. the reality is that this is a complex situation and we are doing the best we can, but there isn't a 100% correct answer and we have to learn to talk about it without being knobs

edit: one thing the government has been really good with is having all of the data publicly available - both in a high level and accessible way, and at a lower level with a lot more detail for those who want it. If you really are interested in finding out the "real" death and case numbers, it is all there for you to look at.
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You are right about being able to discuss this without turning into knobs matt. Most can, some not so much.
 
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