£40 a year for garden waste collections

last year RC missed the last 3 Green collections for a whole area , over a month , said it was due to staffing and sickness , then eventually had an emergency collection on a diff day which i ws v lucky to catch. Was a right chew and I didn't get anything done on the garden clearance I wanted as was waiting for it to be emptied before chopping branches again, Honestly, I know this shxt will happen again even with us paying so in that case the council are gonna get it right in the chops from all of us hopefully. I've already prepared my online complaint statements and engaged an autodial message phone company for prelims
 
FatFrank said:
Don't see a problem with it personally. Collecting green waste must be a large outgoing for any council given they'd have to mirror regular waste rounds. An extra 8-10 vehicles for 7/8 months, plus drivers and loaders. That doesn't come cheap. Plus there is the wastage itself from wherever it goes. Not sure if Council's receive money back like recycling.

Council's are skint man - 25 years time there won't be such thing as a Council anymore. Just a large outsourced organisation controlled by central governments.
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I think it is a good service that the councils have provided but also feel we are already paying for it through our council tax. The council tax in Redcar and Cleveland is set to rise by 2.9% which is around £6 per month or £60 per year. Couple that with this hidden stealth tax of £40 (optional) and it is a rise of £100 per household.

The vast majority of households will sign up up to this scheme because it is easier and cheaper than running to the tip twice per month and not everyone has the space for a compost bin.

It is just a good job our gas, electricity, water, and other household requirements aren’t going up. 😳
 
Norman_Conquest said:
The vast majority of households will sign up up to this scheme because it is easier and cheaper than running to the tip twice per month and not everyone has the space for a compost bin
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Do you really believe that?

Going from what I've read on social media, and from friends/colleagues, etc, most are going to refuse to pay it, and just put their 'green' rubbish in their normal bin.
 
I live in an area with a Green waste collection service. It used to be free but there was a one-off cost to buy the bin. Now it's an annual charge. I just use the regular waste bin.

The thing I really begrudge about it is that I am on a new build estate where house prices always seem to fall in to the category for the highest council tax fees so I'm already paying a lot. They then have the cheek to not adopt our area which means we have to pay an estate management fee on top of council tax so another fee to collect waste seems excessive.
 
Marvanelli said:
Do you really believe that?

Going from what I've read on social media, and from friends/colleagues, etc, most are going to refuse to pay it, and just put their 'green' rubbish in their normal bin.
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What will you and your friends do when they stop collecting your rubbish bin?

R&C already have a team going round checking what we put in the blue bin. Household rubbish will be next.
 
On average after Adults and children's health and social care councils are typically left with about 15% of their total annual budget to provide all other services.

Councils are on their knees and if they don't add charges for things like this all that happens is we will lose them non statuary services entirely.

It's £40, it's optional and is value for money. To think your council tax should already cover all the services people want is to deny reality.

Want to blame someone then blame those who forced austerity on our country and cut budgets to the bone.

Redcar is about 50 million down in cash terms from around a decade ago on terms of funding. Councils cam only cut so much.

If you're angry about this don't blame your council or councillors, blame the cruel despots in charge who have gleefully cut your councils budget year after year.
 
Craggyjohn said:
How is it policed? What's to stop people putting bags of garden waste in with a neighbours pile of waste bags
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I was reading on the R&C website that all garden rubbish must be in the bin and they will not take any bags left next to them.


What we collect​

  • grass and hedge clippings
  • leaves
  • plants
  • small branches - no bigger than 30 cm in length
  • weeds (but not Japanese Knotweed)
  • twigs and sticks
  • fallen fruit
  • flowers and house plants
Please note: all garden waste including branches must be able to fit into your bin with the lid closed.

What we do not collect​

  • bags
  • sacks
  • bricks, rubble or soil
  • plastic plant pots and containers
  • large branches or logs
  • Japanese Knotweed
  • wire
  • string
  • plastic
  • metal
  • liquids (for example paint, pesticides, weed killer)
  • food waste
  • any other household waste
You may be able to take items we do not collect to Dunsdale tip, free of charge, 7 days a week. Please using our online booking system to book an appointment.
 
They're usually just time window collections

I don't see the fuss. Ours is free but we don't really use it. It just goes in the wheelie bin, I mow too frequently to mess around with it.

If you're recycling properly most people will have plenty of space in there unless you are mowing downtown abbey's lawn

I've got 200sqm of lawn and I mow it every other day spring/summer as I like to keep my stripes defined and we have lots of bushes and ivy to prune and we've never struggled but if we did we'd use the service I guess, but the tip is always free, the booking system is really efficient & you can get a roll of bags for a few quid

RedAsABeetroot said:
I understand why the tips introduced appointment systems under covid but why has that not been scrapped now?
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Because it's a far, far better system. Haverton hill for example is split between the councils so this gives them insight into exactly who uses it, how often and from which council.

But for end users it's miles better - there are limited slots so it's never busy and usage is spread out throughout the day.

Gone are the days of me sitting in a queue for half an hour as everyone gets the same idea, yet you can usually book a slot within 30 mins if you want to go last minute and they let you go 15-20 mins early

Since Covid we've been a lot and never waited more than 1-2 car spaces worth where's before queues were common back into the main road before the roundabout

You're in and out in no time which also means the lads often help out when you've got a car full as well
 
JonnyHistory said:
On average after Adults and children's health and social care councils are typically left with about 15% of their total annual budget to provide all other services.

Councils are on their knees and if they don't add charges for things like this all that happens is we will lose them non statuary services entirely.

It's £40, it's optional and is value for money. To think your council tax should already cover all the services people want is to deny reality.

Want to blame someone then blame those who forced austerity on our country and cut budgets to the bone.

Redcar is about 50 million down in cash terms from around a decade ago on terms of funding. Councils cam only cut so much.

If you're angry about this don't blame your council or councillors, blame the cruel despots in charge who have gleefully cut your councils budget year after year.
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I'm sure I read Stockton over 100m down from 2010 but people loan about spending a few million on the globe or the Hilton, things that improve the town, could have done both every year for 10 years with that cash
 
ThatFragranceGuy said:
I'm sure I read Stockton over 100m down from 2010 but people loan about spending a few million on the globe or the Hilton, things that improve the town, could have done both every year for 10 years with that cash
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Depends where that cash came from. Some money is ring fenced for regeneration and investment and can't be spent on services. Or money is taken from pots that are for a specific purpose, like Redcar with their town deal/levelling up money, that has specific criteria attached to it.

People assume government money is like a household and it's just not.

100 million for a town size of Stockton makes sense, it's about twice the size or Redcar and puts into perspective how bad the Tories have been. Remember that's 100 million before adjusting for inflation over that decade.
 
You could get together with five of your neighbours and make this cheaper and just have the bins collected from outside one houesehold and save £16 per year on each household. 🤣 🤣 🤣

Let's face it, you usually have to walk up and down the street to retrieve your bin.

How Much Does It Cost?​

Number of Bins to Be CollectedAnnual Cost*
1£40
2£60
3£80
4£100
5£120
 
Norman_Conquest said:
You could get together with five of your neighbours and make this cheaper and just have the bins collected from outside one houesehold and save £16 per year on each household. 🤣 🤣 🤣

Let's face it, you usually have to walk up and down the street to retrieve your bin.

How Much Does It Cost?​

Number of Bins to Be CollectedAnnual Cost*
1£40
2£60
3£80
4£100
5£120
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Or if you use the service you could just pay?

I suspect when council goes bust ( and if things continue Redcar is only a year or two away from that ) all of these services will either disappear or you will be charged a hell of a lot more.

Yes council tax is going up and yes new charges being introduced but they really don't have a choice. If you love your area support it and support your council who do their best generally in difficult circumstances to deliver as much as they can.
 
Is this RC&C?

£40 doesn't seem bad, but I've got quite a lot of grass. Not sure what they're charging in Stockton where we are?

I hope I get a grass wheely bin out of this soon though, like I had in boro, as the bag system for Stockton is $hit. After two weeks they end up minging, and leaking grass juice which stinks. If they keep with the grass bag crap I'm probably just going to put a gate on the back fence and dump it in the trees/ nettles behind.

Same with recycling too, make everyone use those daft white hessian bags, to save money, which probably doesn't save money and then when it's windy all the recycling blows all over the place and someone somewhere ends up being paid for litter picking, it's daft.
 
Andy_W said:
Is this RC&C?

£40 doesn't seem bad, but I've got quite a lot of grass. Not sure what they're charging in Stockton where we are?

I hope I get a grass wheely bin out of this soon though, like I had in boro, as the bag system for Stockton is $hit. After two weeks they end up minging, and leaking grass juice which stinks. If they keep with the grass bag crap I'm probably just going to put a gate on the back fence and dump it in the trees/ nettles behind.

Same with recycling too, make everyone use those daft white hessian bags, to save money, which probably doesn't save money and then when it's windy all the recycling blows all over the place and someone somewhere ends up being paid for litter picking, it's daft.
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Its free in Stockton currently
 
JonnyHistory said:
Or if you use the service you could just pay?

I suspect when council goes bust ( and if things continue Redcar is only a year or two away from that ) all of these services will either disappear or you will be charged a hell of a lot more.

Yes council tax is going up and yes new charges being introduced but they really don't have a choice. If you love your area support it and support your council who do their best generally in difficult circumstances to deliver as much as they can.
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Johnny, I think you've just had a whoosh moment over the payment remark.

Let's face it, R&C should be a very rich council with what is happening on the Freeport and should not have to worry about bankruptcy or be issuing stealth taxes to its residents.
 
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Norman_Conquest said:
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Johnny, I think you've just had a whoosh moment over the payment remark.

Let's face it, R&C should be a very rich council with what his happening on the Freeport and should not have to worry about bancruptcy or be issuing stealth taxes to its residents.
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Why should it?
Most of what's happening in Freeport is not exclusive to Redcar and fiscal benefits won't be felt for years.

How can a council be rich when their budget is cut year after year?

I think you need to look I to that Freeport deal and just who is getting "rich" from it, because it's certainly not the local councils.
 
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