Where is Liz Truss?

I said this a few months back

Truss is unconsciously incompetent which is more dangerous than boris who is consciously incompetent

Also, you get the impression that Kwami-Kwasi would sacrifice us all to save his political career. Not recognising, it’s already gone.
The other thing about that Truss regional interview round. It was the majority of the people doing them were obviously locals..with a local dialect. Very refreshing for a change.
 
Also, you get the impression that Kwami-Kwasi would sacrifice us all to save his political career. Not recognising, it’s already gone.
The other thing about that Truss regional interview round. It was the majority of the people doing them were obviously locals..with a local dialect. Very refreshing for a change.
He is a hedge fund creature. His only goal is to make profits for his funds. Whether people, cities or nations are squeezed to death in the process is irrelevant to him and his ilk. They are not creators, they are destroyers.
 
It was always the concern with Truss. Better for labours chances but what damage would she do in the meantime? (particularly given who was backing her).

Mind I don't think anyone predicted the speed she'd get stuck into it. It's caught everyone out.
I continually stated that she would be far far worse as she only had to pander to the membership and that Boris Johnson leaving would be very bad for the country. People just seemed completely oblivious. A shiney eyed lunatic like her could destroy the country in 2 weeks never mind 2 years.

If Boris Johnson had remained in charge we would have bumbled along with out seeing the horrifying cut in the public sector that are sure to come. We would also not have someone lacking intelligence in charge at a time of national crisis.

We were in the frying pan. It was hot and not a very nice place to be but it was bearable. We are now on fire. And covered in ****. And have just driven off a cliff.
 
If Boris Johnson had remained in charge we would have bumbled along with out seeing the horrifying cut in the public sector that are sure to come. We would also not have someone lacking intelligence in charge at a time of national crisis.
We would also continue a risk of further years of tory misery, and a slow and longer lasting dismantling of our country
 
We would also continue a risk of further years of tory misery, and a slow and longer lasting dismantling of our country
A risk of further Tory misery? Your solution is to treble the misery. It's all a bit I'm alright jack. People prepared to let others suffer so their mediocre labour lot can get in. It's like shooting yourself in the face with a shotgun because you don't think you are receiving proper medical attention.
 
I continually stated that she would be far far worse as she only had to pander to the membership and that Boris Johnson leaving would be very bad for the country. People just seemed completely oblivious. A shiney eyed lunatic like her could destroy the country in 2 weeks never mind 2 years.

If Boris Johnson had remained in charge we would have bumbled along with out seeing the horrifying cut in the public sector that are sure to come. We would also not have someone lacking intelligence in charge at a time of national crisis.

We were in the frying pan. It was hot and not a very nice place to be but it was bearable. We are now on fire. And covered in ****. And have just driven off a cliff.
Don't try and reform Johnson - he was a different kind of dangerous lunatic.
 
Oh and longer lasting dismantling of our country? The cuts made by Cameron were devastating. We still haven't recovered. Damage done by truss over two years will be far more devastating than anything Johnson would have done in 8.
 
A risk of further Tory misery? Your solution is to treble the misery.
No, my solution is pressure to get the whole lot of them out. Fact is she will be under immense pressure from her MPs to u-turn, we have to take our medicine, we can take it in sips and draw it out under Johnson or gulp it down and get oer with under Truss. Either way, it'll taste like shyt.

It's all a bit I'm alright jack.
No idea how you got that from my two sentences that didn't reference how and if it would impact me. Bizarre


People prepared to let others suffer so their mediocre labour lot can get in.
You can call them mediocre, I'll call them competent and that's what we need more than anything right now. What are you suggesting, we let the tories continue just not Truss? Tory MPs are beholden to their backers, did you not listen to the news last year, they admitted it. So it doesn't matter if it's Truss, Johnson or any other of them, they'll deliver what they're paid to deliver by millionaires and big business

It's like shooting yourself in the face with a shotgun because you don't think you are receiving proper medical attention.
Terrible metaphor for a labour government, it's like going to a doctor when you realise the wellness centre, with it's accupunture and aromatherapy is just full of quacks that have been rinsing you....there, fixed it for you.
 
Yes far more so than truss. People just seem blithely oblivious to the damage she can do. Under Johnson we increased our staff. This one will get rid of them all again. The public sector cannot take any more cuts. Take our medicine indeed.
My metaphor is not about the Labour government. It's about the argument that we will be better off in the long run with the anti Corbyn in charge. The idea that people can take a further battering because at least we'll get labour in. Well we can't take a further battering we really can't. I think this is a really appalling and selfish argument. I would far rather risk the Tories get in next time than see the country utterly destroyed.
 
Yes far more so than truss. People just seem blithely oblivious to the damage she can do. Under Johnson we increased our staff. This one will get rid of them all again. The public sector cannot take any more cuts. Take our medicine indeed.
You are talking like Johnson wasn't going to continue ruining the country

My metaphor is not about the Labour government. It's about the argument that we will be better off in the long run with the anti Corbyn in charge.
You mean a sensible, middle ground, pragmatist. Of course the country will be better off with that that than the far right failures of Johnson and Truss.

The idea that people can take a further battering because at least we'll get labour in. Well we can't take a further battering we really can't.
Oh is this the Starmer is a Tory argument, FFS, where to start with that one. It's a daft assumption that labour will not row back all the harm that the tories have done, and start to move to centrist, sensible politics with renationalisation of rails and eventually energy, refunding of social services, police and NHS. They are not just another set of tories. It's a spectrum and the right of labour still believes in social services and NHS etc.

The idea that people can take a further battering because at least we'll get labour in. Well we can't take a further battering we really can't.
It's not about getting labour in, it's about cutting out the cancer of the tory party

I think this is a really appalling and selfish argument. I would far rather risk the Tories get in next time than see the country utterly destroyed.
Well that's a complete bizarre take considering its the tories that have ruined this country for 12 years.
 
I'm not making any starmer is a Tory argument. I am making the argument that truss is an absolute liability. I am making the argument that she is worse than johnson. That the idea that we can take increased pain and it will be worth it if labour get in is infuriating and insulting. Maybes you can take further pain. Millions will be unable to. Our public services certainly can not.

I would have been much much happier had Johnson stayed in. Truss is the anti Corbyn. More extreme than johnson as she had to pander to Tory members not the general public. And I'm far more afraid about what may happen when she opens her mouth to talk about Putin.

You are missreading my metaphor entirely. Again it's about the idea it needs to get worse before it can get better. Nothing to do with labour or starmer. That in order for a cure you are prepared to blow your own head off to receive it. What's the point in a cure if you no longer have a head.

And I talk about it from a public service perspective. Again I do not think Johnson was doing a good job. But he was a damn sight better than Cameron for us. We had actually started getting numbers back. I am aware that he certainly had more favourable circumstances, but of the Tories we have had he was the best of the bunch. If you don't agree or don't want to believe that fair enough. The renter's reform bill his government put through was also far better than anything the Tories or labour have put through in the last 20 years. This is also something that affects me greatly.

Sorry I'm not as good at quoting as you. **** phone. :D
 
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