If Chris Wilder was still at Boro……..

Borocrazy

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Me and my son were just discussing whether Boro would have been in a better position now if Chris Wilder hadn’t been keen to join Burnley and stayed loyal to Boro. Hypothetical of course but just wondering whether everyone else thought.
 
Hard to say. I don’t blame Carrick (much) for the current mess but it’s hard to imagine a scenario where it’s much worse than it is now.
Oh I don't know but we could be bottom like Rotherham with 19 points and almost certain of relegation. Or we could be in a league below or several leagues below, or we could be in administration, or even sent down to the non-leagues for overspending to buy the success so many of our fans seem to think they are entitled too. I think all of those scenarios would be far far worse than now. But you carry on and Don't Panic!!!
 
I don’t think last season would have been as good as it was but it’s difficult to say we’d have been worse this season.

He wasn’t as bad as we like to make out, it was his attitude that cost him rather than his coaching ability.


Coaching ability definitely came into it. The whole league sussed a diagonal ball into the space between wide centreback and wingback left us open for a cross and a six yard box tap in. He refused or was unable to change that. He seemed to stick his head in the sand and refuse to admit or simply couldn’t see that he needed to change something.
 
Tough one isn't it. His best was probably not as a good as Carrick but his worse wasn't as bad?

Start of last season results were awful but performances were decent and we looked the better side in a lot of those games and came away with nothing. Contrast with the current situation where we've been second best almost every week.
 
Coaching ability definitely came into it. The whole league sussed a diagonal ball into the space between wide centreback and wingback left us open for a cross and a six yard box tap in. He refused or was unable to change that. He seemed to stick his head in the sand and refuse to admit or simply couldn’t see that he needed to change something.
A bit like how the whole league have sussed that pressing us in our own half will result in us gifting them a load of opportunities.

That along with exposing both of our full backs.

And Carrick is refusing to change it.
 
A bit like how the whole league have sussed that pressing us in our own half will result in us gifting them a load of opportunities.

That along with exposing both of our full backs.

And Carrick is refusing to change it.
It's not a case of wholesale change really, just slight tweaks, vary your approach and sometimes go for the quick long throw or kick from the keeper as well as the playing out from the back.

I thought in the first leg against Chelsea we mixed it up a bit, playing out from the back and also kicking it longer. Not aimless balls either but looking to pick out a wide player. Mixing it up a bit occasionally seemed to work. At the moment the opposition know what we're going to do and therefore can set up to press us immediately. You have to mix it up a bit to keep the opposition guessing a bit. Same goes for occasional balls over the top in behind full backs, instead of always playing it around in front of them.
 
It's not a case of wholesale change really, just slight tweaks, vary your approach and sometimes go for the quick long throw or kick from the keeper as well as the playing out from the back.

I thought in the first leg against Chelsea we mixed it up a bit, playing out from the back and also kicking it longer. Not aimless balls either but looking to pick out a wide player. Mixing it up a bit occasionally seemed to work. At the moment the opposition know what we're going to do and therefore can set up to press us immediately. You have to mix it up a bit to keep the opposition guessing a bit. Same goes for occasional balls over the top in behind full backs, instead of always playing it around in front of them.
I agree. See my post from 4th December.

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Paradoxically
If he was still here we would probably either be in The Prem or just have been relegated - would that have been too bad?

Otherwise, he wouldn't have been sacked
 
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