Fake Meat

red_harrington

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I'm pretty sure that before the end of the century most of us won't be eating meat any more and those that do will be looked down upon as savages :D

As a meat eater myself I'm disappointed to be told by the missus every now and then to provide a veggie meal for us all so when I was in Tesco today I spotted these things and put them in the basket.

They didn't have a price on them but I bought them anyway, I found out later they're £9 a pack(!) but wow... if you're ever thinking of a substitute for fillet steak, seriously, look no further! Very impressed:p


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Ingredients listed: Water, Soy Protein Concentrate (27%), Sunflower Oil, Natural Flavours, Colouring (Red Beet Juice Concentrate, Acerola Extract), Thickeners (Carrageenan, Methylcellulose), Vitamin B12

At the price you stated, that's nearly £40 per kg. That is ridiculously expensive.

The soy protein is heavily modified and is likely classed as ultra proceeded.

This **** isn't for me but crack on if you feel the need.
 
Cows eh? yeah of course , because the only thing we get from a cow is milk and meat right ? yeah of course !

Leather, soap, cosmetics, adhesives, and pharmaceuticals are some of the most common beef byproducts.

Other items which contain beef byproducts are insulin, dog food, rawhide bones, laundry pre-treatment, bone china, toilet paper (to make it soft), glue, dish soap, candles, film, crayons, paintbrushes, printing ink, nail polish remover, deodorants, antifreeze, hydraulic brake fluid, car wax, highways, tires, a
 
Other items which contain beef byproducts are insulin, dog food, rawhide bones, laundry pre-treatment, bone china, toilet paper (to make it soft), glue, dish soap, candles, film, crayons, paintbrushes, printing ink, nail polish remover, deodorants, antifreeze, hydraulic brake fluid, car wax, highways,

Hopefully dogs as pets will not exist soon. I'm sick of dodging dog crap while you walk and being treated the the joy of seeing someone's pet pooch curl one out in public.
 
I'm pretty sure that before the end of the century most of us won't be eating meat any more and those that do will be looked down upon as savages :D

As a meat eater myself I'm disappointed to be told by the missus every now and then to provide a veggie meal for us all so when I was in Tesco today I spotted these things and put them in the basket.

They didn't have a price on them but I bought them anyway, I found out later they're £9 a pack(!) but wow... if you're ever thinking of a substitute for fillet steak, seriously, look no further! Very impressed:p


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I don't get products like this. I enjoy vegetarian dishes such as vegetable curries but stuff like the above really doesn't interest me.
 
Hopefully dogs as pets will not exist soon. I'm sick of dodging dog crap while you walk and being treated the the joy of seeing someone's pet pooch curl one out in public.
That's not the dog's fault, it's the owner. I am a dog owner and always have at least 2 rolls of poo bags hanging off my belt loop.
Now if you'd said irresponsible dog owners will hopefully soon be a thing if the past then I'd be fully behind you.
 
£9? Is it hand reared, grain fed and massaged by a young lady before being ethically culled and transported by bicycle to the shop?
I'm a veggie myself, but that just reeks of exploitation to me and it wouldn't surprise me to find that Trump is behind it 😁


One of the lads at work is a vegan, always makes me laugh when we go out for a curry and his cauliflower based one is the same price or often dearer than a lamb or Chicken tikka option.
 
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Indian food is probably the most widely acceptable vegetarian or vegan food for anyone wanting to try it. A lot of the flavours and textures don’t come from meat anyway so you wouldn’t be missing something from the dish without it. Ghee is more easily replaced in dishes that use it.
 
I'm pretty sure that before the end of the century most of us won't be eating meat any more and those that do will be looked down upon as savages :D

As a meat eater myself I'm disappointed to be told by the missus every now and then to provide a veggie meal for us all so when I was in Tesco today I spotted these things and put them in the basket.

They didn't have a price on them but I bought them anyway, I found out later they're £9 a pack(!) but wow... if you're ever thinking of a substitute for fillet steak, seriously, look no further! Very impressed:p


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I was going to have a go at them.
Expensive but, a good recommendation is always worthwhile

I made my own ‘Seitan’ steak the other week - really, really good and dirt cheap cooking from scratch using vital wheat gluten as the main ingredient.
One of the lads at work is a vegan, always makes me laugh when we go out for a curry and his cauliflower based one is the same price or often dearer than a lamb or Chicken tikka option.
It is a source of mild frustration for me but I take the view the cost of raw ingredients are probably not the most significant cost for the industry - labour, heating, rent and rates et al.

My food is usually delicious too and my diet suits my values
 
I think lab grown meat will replace the farmed stuff once they perfect the process.
Can't see it myself, maybe for people that want ethical meat or something it will be an option but it's never going to replace a premium cut of meat, with all its varieties and flavours. From what I've read as well it only creates the meat, it doesnt create the fat which is where majority of meat gets its flavour from. All the stuff they've made so far has had to be either heavily seasoned and specially prepared to compete in a proper test, or meat has been ground up and served plain and hasn't had the right texture. Farmers aren't going to stop being farmers and start a lab, so the slight problem of the massive global industry to replace them, we of course use cows for many other things but if thats the case where is the gain if we still need to farm cows for everything else? very little ethical gain there.

Even fake meat - we were told that beyond meat were the future only a few years back - sales were rocketing, share price massive, sky is the limit. Since then the wind has gone out of their sales and they've made mass redundancies several times.

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They're not particularly healthy themselves, people see meat free and they think healthy eating - impossible burger for example is full of vegetable oil and coconut oil , beyond burger is full of canola oil and coconut oil and both are highly processed whereas you can make a burger in a few minutes with with just beef, onion, egg and seasoning. how you going to make

The burgers they make are expensive and are only "ok", so can't say I'm surprised. Anyone who thinks they are as good as an actual burger I would contest has never had a burger before. I read on here that you'd never know the difference they were that good. I'd say that a Tesco value burger would probably be better. But, again, good if you want to stop eating meat and have something meat-like

I don't mind meat free stuff but fake meat is generally poor. I'd rather have proper vegetarian stuff. Fake meat is at best "less bad", but even actual grown meat will never be a premium product and probably always be a lot more expensive than the real thing. I can not imagine a time where people are buying extremely nice tasting lab grown meat from Iceland or B&M. I'd rather be eating stuff like india, thailand etc kick out with their vegetarian stuff where its designed from the ground up to be a vegetarian meal than eat sub par pretend meat.

In the above example with cauliflower curry, I suppose its because few people will order it but they have to have it on hand and prepped as well as extra cooking items out & work space so that theyre not contaminated. Fixed costs will be the same and youd ideally get a profit per table, not having the meat in there probably doesn't save them money as they probably have to throw meat away regularly anyway as better to have too much than too little.
 
Indian food is probably the most widely acceptable vegetarian or vegan food for anyone wanting to try it. A lot of the flavours and textures don’t come from meat anyway so you wouldn’t be missing something from the dish without it. Ghee is more easily replaced in dishes that use it.
100%, I could be an indian vegetarian with very little problem if I needed to be.

But I don't need to be so I'm off to prep my prime rib :ROFLMAO:
 
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