Starmer can just ignore it though can't he?
And he should if they vote to have it on the manifesto, its a vote loser at election time I am afraid.Starmer can just ignore it though can't he?
If Kier Starmer told me the grass was green and sky was blue I'd have to look out of the window. Their recent track record against anyone within the party who dares to question them is a disgrace, and Starmers magic trick for making members disappear in their hundreds of thousands .....Dynamo would be proud.The biggest enemy of the labour party seems to be the labour party from posts on here.
When are you going to realise that only a 100% firm centre ground Labour Party is going to be successful against the Tories AND THE MEDIA AND THE FAR RIGHT WING PRESS ?If Kier Starmer told me the grass was green and sky was blue I'd have to look out of the window. Their recent track record against anyone within the party who dares to question them is a disgrace, and Starmers magic trick for making members disappear in their hundreds of thousands .....Dynamo would be proud.
I don't get the hatred of starmer. I haven't particularly taken to him but the labour party look like grown ups waiting to take over. I don't really care who he kicked out of the party, it's worked.When are you going to realise that only a 100% firm centre ground Labour Party is going to be successful against the Tories AND THE MEDIA AND THE FAR RIGHT WING PRESS ?
You have to gradually start with the centre ground then introduce the other social justice policies BUT gradually.
Trust starmer to do this….FFS….otherwise these Tories will destroy this country and they’re almost there in destruction of the country to be fair with brexit and 10 years of austerity and now this tax breaks for the rich budget….pound getting ‘tanked’
Just let starmer try and steer us out of it….slowly but surely…
Aka be Tories to win Tory votes so no change. By the time you are in a position to introduce left wing policies it'll be the Tories turn again.When are you going to realise that only a 100% firm centre ground Labour Party is going to be successful against the Tories AND THE MEDIA AND THE FAR RIGHT WING PRESS ?
You have to gradually start with the centre ground then introduce the other social justice policies BUT gradually.
Trust starmer to do this….FFS….otherwise these Tories will destroy this country and they’re almost there in destruction of the country to be fair with brexit and 10 years of austerity and now this tax breaks for the rich budget….pound getting ‘tanked’
Just let starmer try and steer us out of it….slowly but surely…
You need to realise that there is a difference between the current Tory government and a Tory government like Cameron's. Cameron could be the Labour leader and policies would be no different to Starmer's. So yes, any Labour is better than current Tory but don't pretend centrist Labour is something that anyone that actually wants genuine change to be excited about.Anyone who suggests that a centrist Labour govenment is the same as a Tory government needs to leave the debate to the grown ups. The Tories are a right wing BNP / UKIP hybrid under a different banner.
Would I love a left Labour government? Absolutely. Would I prefer a centrist Labour government to this corrupt, self serving shower of sh1t? Absolutely.
You used "trust" and "Starmer" in the same sentence .When are you going to realise that only a 100% firm centre ground Labour Party is going to be successful against the Tories AND THE MEDIA AND THE FAR RIGHT WING PRESS ?
You have to gradually start with the centre ground then introduce the other social justice policies BUT gradually.
Trust starmer to do this….FFS….otherwise these Tories will destroy this country and they’re almost there in destruction of the country to be fair with brexit and 10 years of austerity and now this tax breaks for the rich budget….pound getting ‘tanked’
Just let starmer try and steer us out of it….slowly but surely…
The problem is that not enough people want change and it really pains me. We got so close under Corbyn to change, but it wasn't enough.You need to realise that there is a difference between the current Tory government and a Tory government like Cameron's. Cameron could be the Labour leader and policies would be no different to Starmer's. So yes, any Labour is better than current Tory but don't pretend centrist Labour is something that anyone that actually wants genuine change to be excited about.
Would I love a left Labour government? Absolutely. Would I prefer a centrist Labour government to this corrupt, self serving shower of sh1t? Absolutely.
Hard disagree. There is plenty of support for a left wing government. Corbyn's policies were very popular. His personality wasn't. He was also leader at an impossible time due to Brexit. If you took Brexit out of the equation then I think he would've won when it was May v Corbyn.The problem is that not enough people want change and it really pains me. We got so close under Corbyn to change, but it wasn't enough.
I hate it, but there's enough support for a left wing government in the UK and hasn't been for over 40 years.
A centrist Labour government is still a step forward from the shift to the hard right the majority of us are suffering with.
Trust starmer to do this….FFS….otherwise these Tories will destroy this country and they’re almost there in destruction of the country to be fair with brexit and 10 years of austerity and now this tax breaks for the rich budget….pound getting ‘tanked’
Just let starmer try and steer us out of it….slowly but surely…
Is it? Care to tell me the policies that have been pledged that are right wing?How about a right wing Labour government? Since that's what is actually being offered.