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Wiseman_Vaughn
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strange that there appears to be little appetite to adopt "rejoin" as a policy.
Laughing
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I don't think that is a big surprise to be honest. According to polls, the majority think brexit is going badly but that doesn't equate to an appetite to rejoin. There was a fair bit of bad blood during and after the referendums the 4 years that followed. People were sick of it and that may have contributed to Johnsons majority. Not that people still thought it was a good idea! They just wanted it done.
Similarly it will take a while of the brexit bite to get folks to support a rejoin party.
Wiseman_Vaughn
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it feels like a tailormade policy for Lbour to get behind, especially in the current economic climate
Redwurzel
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As discussed before - the ballot paper said remain or leave
To me if we had been a democracy there should have been another referendum on what sort of leave. Thats not second vote, but further clarification of the first vote.
Not all vote leavers wanted to leave the way we have i.e they wanted to keep the economic advantages but not have the same level of political ties, such as EFTA countries have.
To me leaving it to our MPs to vote for the right deal for not correct, it was too important to leave it to them, without a referendum.
The political parties of the UK are free to adopt returning as a policy. I am sure the SNP have. I don't know about the Conservatives, Labour or Liberals.
To me if we had been a democracy there should have been another referendum on what sort of leave. Thats not second vote, but further clarification of the first vote.
Not all vote leavers wanted to leave the way we have i.e they wanted to keep the economic advantages but not have the same level of political ties, such as EFTA countries have.
To me leaving it to our MPs to vote for the right deal for not correct, it was too important to leave it to them, without a referendum.
The political parties of the UK are free to adopt returning as a policy. I am sure the SNP have. I don't know about the Conservatives, Labour or Liberals.
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festa5
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Think they'll see it as just too risky.
A big part of it is people are very reluctant to admit they're wrong and you can guarantee the Tory strategists would be all over it as a "betrayal of democracy" etc.
Either way you'd hope labour have done/are doing all the polling and focus groups etc on it and are basing their strategy on the data (which presumably says "not yet").
Lottowyn
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A spiffing policy to get behind - one where the people have already voted to come out, and an policy which would mean us getting rid of the £ to adopt the €, and where the UK would stand cap in hand well behind ‘top dogs’ France and Germany. A wonderful policy.
Wiseman_Vaughn
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It would be a gamble - but Labour were a "Remain" party. I think it should be very clear to the electorate where their ambitions lie.
Based on what has happened with free movement, the current economic situation and Ukraine, I think there would be considerable support to rejoin in some form.
Wiseman_Vaughn
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I don't agree. This would be a policy that is polar opposite to the Conservatives. in the current economic situation, I believe this would be a vote winner.
festa5
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I would hope so, definitely. And for me personally it's a big issue, one of the most significant.
But more importantly I want the Tories out.
At this point by whatever means it takes. I'll leave it to people far better qualified than me to judge what the best strategy for that is. But I would love it if that included a strong rejoining policy. But I suspect, sadly, at this point it doesn't.
Wiseman_Vaughn
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For me, at this moment in time, this is the policy that would achieve this
WoodallServices
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Take away everything else, as long as your money goes as far do you really care what it looks like? Especially as we’re rapidly heading towards a cashless society anyway.
newusername
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Scrote
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Starmer has boxed Labour into a corner with this, though.
By not coming to terms with the fact that HIS Brexit policy was a major problem at the last election, Labour haven't been able to pivot on the issue to give any positive spin. Hence the current policy of out-Brexiting the Brexiters.
The fact that Ian Duncan Smith can propose a more left-wing socio-economic idea than Starmer just about sums up this utterly-devoid-of-ideas Labour Party.
They're very much in Leopards Ate My Face territory and a Tory collapse is the only real chance they have electorally.
By not coming to terms with the fact that HIS Brexit policy was a major problem at the last election, Labour haven't been able to pivot on the issue to give any positive spin. Hence the current policy of out-Brexiting the Brexiters.
The fact that Ian Duncan Smith can propose a more left-wing socio-economic idea than Starmer just about sums up this utterly-devoid-of-ideas Labour Party.
They're very much in Leopards Ate My Face territory and a Tory collapse is the only real chance they have electorally.
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Scrote
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Bottom left
WeeGord
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At the bottom.
festa5
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People shouldn't care but they will. And they'll be told to care by the likes of the mail and Farage.
Laughing
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I do think labour have played this one really well. They have committed to address the short comings of brexit which their are a major minority of voters that would support this rather than a full rejoin. Its a devisive S7DiscoDown for many.
dooderooni
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I think a rejoin policy would be a vote loser unfortunately. Brexit is a cult to many and certain sections of the media would use it as a way to garner votes from a lot of politically naive voters. It is going to be hard enough to oust the Tories as it is, rejoin could be a real shot in the foot if not handled carefully.