Are we turning the Ukrainian people into targets?

Why would I put my brexit concerns aside? When Russian interference helped influence the result and the weakened state of the UK and the EU has helped embolden Putin to attack Ukraine. It's an uncomfortable truth for all brexit voters that to some small degree they are complicit in this attack.
Like those who voted tory are in 2019 you mean? Bit hypocritical really, hey ho I am sure you meant well at the time and I don’t bear a grudge for your freedom to choose.
 
Like those who voted tory are in 2019 you mean? Bit hypocritical really, hey ho I am sure you meant well at the time and I don’t bear a grudge for your freedom to choose.
Not really. I guess you didn't read my response to Kosovo?
 
You said 'complicit in this attack' and your subsequent weasel words cannot get away from the fact that you made this abhorrent slur as part of your campaign against Brexit voters.
You are a complete disgrace.
NO, I stand by what I said and my explanation. The fact you've removed the "in some small way" from my comment and ignored the explanation reflects badly on you. I'm sorry if it upsets you but brexit has isolated the UK, in some small way this would give Russia slightly more confidence to attack a sovereign nation, knowing we are one country that, thanks to the Budapest memorandum SHOULD oppose them. It's probably why they interfered in the vote in the first place.
 
NO, I stand by what I said and my explanation. The fact you've removed the "in some small way" from my comment and ignored the explanation reflects badly on you. I'm sorry if it upsets you but brexit has isolated the UK, in some small way this would give Russia slightly more confidence to attack a sovereign nation, knowing we are one country that, thanks to the Budapest memorandum SHOULD oppose them. It's probably why they interfered in the vote in the first place.
'In some small way' was included in my original post so no it doesn't reflect badly on me. Also you still have never explained why you made the complicit remark. Your comments above are significantly watered down.

You want to have an opinion that Brexit has weakened us on the foreign stage - fine a legitimate view which I have no problem with.

What upsets me is you saying Brexit voters are complicit in the attack on the Ukraine.

I've got used to your unbalanced views so largely ignore them but you are in a hole of your own stupidity and should stop digging.
 
Not really. I guess you didn't read my response to Kosovo?
I have now, but you are still not accepting the fact that the only reason brexit ‘got done’ was not because the people that voted for it got it done, it was because of the people that voted tory subsequently. Anyone voting tory was by proxy voting for any old brexit yet you somehow blame others when you are sadly and arguably more complicit in getting brexit done. Now lets put this petty squabble to bed, it will be tedious for everyone else otherwise.
 
Why would I put my brexit concerns aside? When Russian interference helped influence the result and the weakened state of the UK and the EU has helped embolden Putin to attack Ukraine. It's an uncomfortable truth for all brexit voters that to some small degree they are complicit in this attack.
Where is the Head in hands emoji when you need it?


Edit - here it is.

FFS 🙈
 
I have now, but you are still not accepting the fact that the only reason brexit ‘got done’ was not because the people that voted for it got it done, it was because of the people that voted tory subsequently. Anyone voting tory was by proxy voting for any old brexit yet you somehow blame others when you are sadly and arguably more complicit in getting brexit done. Now lets put this petty squabble to bed, it will be tedious for everyone else otherwise.
No I don't accept the fact that brexit only "got done" because people voted Tory. That sounds ludicrous to me. That sounds like you're trying to say that no one who voted for brexit is responsible for brexit? I'd like to see your working out there like.
 
'In some small way' was included in my original post so no it doesn't reflect badly on me. Also you still have never explained why you made the complicit remark. Your comments above are significantly watered down.

You want to have an opinion that Brexit has weakened us on the foreign stage - fine a legitimate view which I have no problem with.

What upsets me is you saying Brexit voters are complicit in the attack on the Ukraine.

I've got used to your unbalanced views so largely ignore them but you are in a hole of your own stupidity and should stop digging.
I have explained why I made the complicit remark but happy to clairify: One of the reasons (far from the only one, but one of) the reasons that Putin felt so emboldened to attack Ukraine is that one of the countries that signed the Budapest Memorandum and explicitly stated it would defend Ukraine were it to be invaded, was weakened by Brexit.
 
Why? Rather than insult me, why not think about what I posted. Same for @Steve8778 .
Every thread you "contribute" to ends up with you insulting people who don't share your opinion, be it EV's or anything else for that matter.
You spout your bile and continue to get away with name calling and downright nastiness. Are you allowed to this by the mods because, 1 They agree with you or 2, you're just clickbait?
 
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Every thread you "contribute" to ends up with you insulting people who don't share your opinion, be it EV's or anything else for that matter.
You spout your bile and continue to get away with name calling and downright nastiness. Are you allowed to this by the mods because, 1 They agree with you or 2, you're just clickbait?
Uh-huh, yea.... no, I'm sorry, I'm not quite sure how that is refuting the point I made?
 
I wasn't trying to "refute" anything. I was giving my opinion of you and wondering why you're allowed to get away with what you do
 
What he has done as well with this push to wear the Z in public by Russians esp school kids.

is immediately show who the dissidents are as well. As now anyone not wearing a Z will be viewed with suspicion.
That sounds familiar doesn't it?

As for ST's comment on those who voted for brexit been complicit surely that's a terrible attempt at a wind up and frankly a little disturbing?
 
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