FabioPorkpie
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What a surprise, when your arguments fail you call someone a troll.
What made you think I was referring to you??
What a surprise, when your arguments fail you call someone a troll.
if he believes Boris is 'good' then he is gullible. In fact the fact he thinks he is some character called Boris rather than Alexander that shows his level of gullibility.Why are you getting so muddled up? Calm down. Read my post again,
Why are you getting so muddled up? Calm down. The last point was a question, it had a question mark at the end of the sentence. It wasn’t an accusation that you said it was acceptablei
The first page has someone calling him a ‘t*t’. The other things mentioned are all there. Others I didn’t mention include ‘gullible old fool’. Have a re-read if you want proof, it all there. Pointlessly, petty name calling of the current Boro boss because people don’t like his political opinion.
Good night.
Been on here over 15 years and it used to be a good forum. Was a great place to chat football and have a laugh. Now its the usual suspects ganging up and insulting anyone with different beliefs to their own. And Rob lets it go to suit his own political agenda.
I don't agree, people have questioned how he went from a working class Labour supporter, to a multi-millionaire Tory supporter before. Hardly a free pass. Forgotten his roots that man.So true. It's equally ironic that the Chairman is a Tory and he gets a free pass.
Why are you continually choosing to ignore what my points have been clearly stated to be? This is possibly the 6th time I have said it, he should not get the abuse and intolerance received on this thread for having a different political stance to a core of others. It shouldn’t happen.if he believes Boris is 'good' then he is gullible. In fact the fact he thinks he is some character called Boris rather than Alexander that shows his level of gullibility.
I don't need to read your post again, you are defending the indefensible. His job is Boro manager not Tory PR. He can have whatever political view he wants, but to use the position of Manager of our club to postulate the greatness of someone who couldn't identify Middlesbrough's shirt compared to Reading or Coventry or Villa's is beyond acceptable.
We know he reads here, he should apologise for his crassness, and accept using his position to back a politician is a divisive and stupid move that will lose him support. Maybe that's what he wants, maybe the task is too big for him.
I don't agree, people have questioned how he went from a working class Labour supporter, to a multi-millionaire Tory supporter before. Hardly a free pass. Forgotten his roots that man.
Here we go again, he is entitled to have his political view ( even if it is different to your own). Are you really taking aim at Steve Gibson now? Or maybe, his views change from time to time, but that is up to him and him alone.So true. It's equally ironic that the Chairman is a Tory and he gets a free pass.
HE won't if he doesn't use a middlesbrough football club press conference as a platform to spread his political views. That's the key point you are ignoring. As soon as he abuses that role, then he's fair game.This is possibly the 6th time I have said it, he should not get the abuse and intolerance received on this thread for having a different political stance to a core of others. It shouldn’t happen.
You mean my anger for using my football club to promote his political views, get it rightYour anger with NW for liking Boris is so apparent in your reply.
Maybe you need to look at his previous behaviours, he's often flounced his way out of a club when it's not going well, and let's be very honest here, the last 5 months have been appalling, as bad as under Woodgate.His ‘ crassness’, ‘is the task too big for him’? ( I have absolutely no idea why you think this is a tactic by himself to encourage loss of support, that is a very odd comment).
Here we go again, he is entitled to have his political view ( even if it is different to your own). Are you really taking aim at Steve Gibson now? Or maybe, his views change from time to time, but that is up to him and him alone.
clique?I think you have badly misjudged where I sit on this matter, the few likes i've given your posts shows I agree with you. I'm taking aim at the hypocrisy of the clique on this board, not Gibson.
A couple of posts back you implied that he shouldn’t get abuse and you got defensive when you thought I had said you had called him a t@@t. Now you position is ‘that he’s fair game’. Well that soon shifted didn’t it once the surface was scratched and your true feelings came out. You really are illustrating exactly what my points about lack of tolerance are, you are probably doing a better job of it than me, so thank you.HE won't if he doesn't use a middlesbrough football club press conference as a platform to spread his political views. That's the key point you are ignoring. As soon as he abuses that role, then he's fair game.
You mean my anger for using my football club to promote his political views, get it right
Maybe you need to look at his previous behaviours, he's often flounced his way out of a club when it's not going well, and let's be very honest here, the last 5 months have been appalling, as bad as under Woodgate.
Sorry Dan, I apologise. I skimmed read it, whilst replying to several people. I know have reread it and understand what you meant, Thanks.I think you have badly misjudged where I sit on this matter, the few likes i've given your posts shows I agree with you. I'm taking aim at the hypocrisy of the clique on this board, not Gibson.
fair game for facing criticism, not abuse, you've made an assumption on my post to fit some outraged agendaA couple of posts back you implied that he shouldn’t get abuse and you got defensive when you thought I had said you had called him a t@@t. Now you position is ‘that he’s fair game’.
Nobody has to tolerate political posturing from a football manager in a football press conference. He doesn't have carte blanche to use that platform for his own agenda and it's stupid of him to think he doesYou really are illustrating exactly what my points about lack of tolerance are, you are probably doing a better job of it than me, so thank you.
I'll tell you for the fourth time, maybe it'll sink in, he can have whatever political view he wants, but when he expresses it with his middlesbrough clobber on, in a middlesbrough press conference then he is open to criticism. Why on earth do you feel that he should be able to use his platform to promote Boris? I'm sure you'd have a different opinion if it was Starmer or previously CorbynYou mean you ‘anger’ for promoting a different political view than your view
Who are the 'clique' who've given the chairman a free pass?I think you have badly misjudged where I sit on this matter, the few likes i've given your posts shows I agree with you. I'm taking aim at the hypocrisy of the clique on this board, not Gibson.
Couldn't agree more.Been on here over 15 years and it used to be a good forum. Was a great place to chat football and have a laugh. Now its the usual suspects ganging up and insulting anyone with different beliefs to their own. And Rob lets it go to suit his own political agenda.
I’m keep this brief as we are just going in circles.fair game for facing criticism, not abuse, you've made an assumption on my post to fit some outraged agenda
Nobody has to tolerate political posturing from a football manager in a football press conference. He doesn't have carte blanche to use that platform for his own agenda and it's stupid of him to think he does
I'll tell you for the fourth time, maybe it'll sink in, he can have whatever political view he wants, but when he expresses it with his middlesbrough clobber on, in a middlesbrough press conference then he is open to criticism. Why on earth do you feel that he should be able to use his platform to promote Boris? I'm sure you'd have a different opinion if it was Starmer or previously Corbyn
If that's the case, then you agree that Warnock was an idiot to be praising Boris as the lord and saviour and invited criticism on himself.I clearly said that I believed football and politics should not mix.