4 more years of Trump

Polling has defended into farce. It now has no value.!If you plan to vote for the populist many deny they would the rest play the greatest game of bluff and say they will. You end up with a deluded liberal heart ground who think they’ve won because the right wing payed them. The reason the polls had Biden so far in front is because Trump fans said they’d vote Biden. The “thick” keep tricking the “intelligencia”

None of this seems like an admission that Biden does very much have a chance.
 
I studied Politics at uni but graduated in 2002! Long time ago and a completely different world now.

Funnily enough my dissertation was centred around Francis Fukuyama and his book The End of History which suggested we’d reached the tipping point ideologically, and that the world would slowly shift peacefully to a global democracy.

How wrong he was!
The age of decadence is the point at which all empires collapse. Obsession with money,
You're partially right. There is a major issue that shy Trumpets are embarrassed to say that they'd vote for a divisive, misogynistic liar.
and the rest vote for Trump 🤣
 
You’re never wasting your time. I was a borderline voter. I weighed up the facts and voted to leave. I have not been convinced otherwise despite passionate contrary. I’m just not sure why you would think it won’t benefit the country or why anyone would like to be controlled by Brussels. I don’t think those who wanted to remain are stupid. I just get why if you voted to leave you are attacked by a snobbish opinion
Have you forgotten how we were promised that no one was talking about leaving the single market. That was a lie, this was always about leaving the single market for the ERG, that allows us to create deals with the US. When TTIP ran into aground due to US demands for access to european healthcare market and foodservice market, negotiations ground to a halt. Then Brexit was the fall back. Brexit is multi-faceted and one of the key things was to open up UK as a minor partner ina trade agreement. This will kill UK food standards, but also farmers, manufacturers and other businesses. Workers rights, protection will be lost in January, just like we were told our food standards will not be reduced, yet it's on the table in discussions, so will our workers rights. There isn't any good in brexit for the man on the streets. I live in Ashford, our new motorway junction open 6 months has now been commandeered and given to a stupid truck park, why because we will end up with a hard border. we also have a second border for goods at Dartford.
 
Have you forgotten how we were promised that no one was talking about leaving the single market. That was a lie, this was always about leaving the single market for the ERG, that allows us to create deals with the US. When TTIP ran into aground due to US demands for access to european healthcare market and foodservice market, negotiations ground to a halt. Then Brexit was the fall back. Brexit is multi-faceted and one of the key things was to open up UK as a minor partner ina trade agreement. This will kill UK food standards, but also farmers, manufacturers and other businesses. Workers rights, protection will be lost in January, just like we were told our food standards will not be reduced, yet it's on the table in discussions, so will our workers rights. There isn't any good in brexit for the man on the streets. I live in Ashford, our new motorway junction open 6 months has now been commandeered and given to a stupid truck park, why because we will end up with a hard border. we also have a second border for goods at Dartford.
Much of that is true but it’s also true that if you are a member of the EU (the strongest trading block EVA) you should be so economically strong that the thought of ever over throwing the system is beyond belief and we all have jobs and an incredibly strong outlook. We don’t. Most people have had their jobs and prosperity destroyed by a system that serves the few.
 
I don't think anyone else thought that.

Honestly mate, I know you're a Trumpette but you don't have to follow his lead with regards just making up lies all the time.
The media have spent months saying he can’t win u are now telling me I’m lying!! 🤣 95% of this board have been saying the same. I dont care if he wins. Trumps wins u get a divisive America. Biden wins and he’ll carry on starting wars. I’d rather the US eats itself than kill innocent civilians
 
BREAKING NEWS - Trump is now demanding a recount in Wisconsin even though the final result isn’t out.

Even if Biden ultimately wins the keys to the White House, I fear for what Trump will try to do.
 
BREAKING NEWS - Trump is now demanding a recount in Wisconsin even though the final result isn’t out.

Even if Biden ultimately wins the keys to the White House, I fear for what Trump will try to do.
It’s not much different to Dubya stealing Florida. Deep state rigged the election with the votes of dead people so he could blow up the Middle East on their behalf. Can we all just agree that the USA is a tyrannical state and Biden has killed more kids than Trump 😷
 
BREAKING NEWS - Trump is now demanding a recount in Wisconsin even though the final result isn’t out.

Even if Biden ultimately wins the keys to the White House, I fear for what Trump will try to do.

Reading on FiveThirtyEight, the few times a recount has resulted in the decision being overturned, it was a few hundred vote margin, not 10k+ so hopefully won’t achieve much
 
The media have spent months saying he can’t win u are now telling me I’m lying!! 🤣 95% of this board have been saying the same. I dont care if he wins. Trumps wins u get a divisive America. Biden wins and he’ll carry on starting wars. I’d rather the US eats itself than kill innocent civilians
In telling you outright you're lying, yes thats correct. Youre either lying or properly delusional if you think 95% of this board thought Biden would get a landslide.

I think you need a lie down mate, you've been sounding bizarre all day
 
In telling you outright you're lying, yes thats correct. Youre either lying or properly delusional if you think 95% of this board thought Biden would get a landslide.

I think you need a lie down mate, you've been sounding bizarre all day
I’m neither. The media and this board have been either lying or delusional not me.
 
Jesus! I think we are close to having to stage an intervention here. I've not seen such disturbingly off the wall posts since I blocked Plaz
The Obama and Biden administration dropped a bomb every 5 minutes and killed more civilians than any other administration in US history. I’m sorry I’m not able to convey murder in more simplistic terms. Trump is a prat Biden is a murderer.
 
Jesus! I think we are close to having to stage an intervention here. I've not seen such disturbingly off the wall posts since I blocked Plaz
He was nearly right, just the wrong choice of words.

Biden is apparently addressing the nation later this evening so sounds like it's done and dusted.

Let's see if he can drag the country out of the gutter, the current and the two previous have failed to do so. Or will it take an intervention from the people to work together and change the nation.
 
He was nearly right, just the wrong choice of words.

Biden is apparently addressing the nation later this evening so sounds like it's done and dusted.

Let's see if he can drag the country out of the gutter, the current and the two previous have failed to do so. Or will it take an intervention from the people to work together and change the nation.
Wrong choice of words?
 
Reading on FiveThirtyEight, the few times a recount has resulted in the decision being overturned, it was a few hundred vote margin, not 10k+ so hopefully won’t achieve much
Head of WI counting just been interviewed and said that they are more than confident to have a recount as they have a robust and thorough process.

This could actually go against trump as it will re inforce the process and validate the result even more.

It could rubber stamp his demise.
 
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