MP tests positive

Lefty said:
Why shouldn’t she be tested for the virus while FRONTLINE MEDICAL STAFF are not?

If you think that was whataboutery, think harder.
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Why do you have politicise and score points when the lady is ill

How she has voted has nothing to do with that she’s tested positive and how her benefits are paid by her employer

I hate the tories btw
 
Fortunately she's recovered as she was interviewed on R4 yesterday. Interestingly she said she was badly affected by the illness but her elderly mothered fared much better.
 
Because that’s what they do. They can’t help themselves. The fact that she voted against increasing benefits for the sick and disabled (seemingly ESA) is irrelevant. Also someone on ESA doesn’t work so there income isn’t affected by this virus surely so why castigate an MP who is ill?

Already seen posters such as Spanishman also seemingly boasting that it could kill brexiteers and northern Tory voters as an act of revenge. Very strange out look these people have
 
GazC_MFC said:
Why do you have politicise and score points when the lady is ill

How she has voted has nothing to do with that she’s tested positive and how her benefits are paid by her employer

I hate the tories btw
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How is this not a political issue? What else is it?

The current state of our Health Service is a result of political choices.
The decisions on sick pay, compensation, business support, what are they if not political questions?
The disconnect from the people who make these decisions but do not usually have to deal with the consequences, is that not an important consideration?

I'm left of centre, but I'll put science, critical thinking, pragmatism and empiricism ahead of ideology every time. However even on the science, there are choices being made and it's perfectly legitimate, not point scoring, to ask why we are choosing a minority opinion over a majority one.

When there is a school massacre in the USA, do you agree with the NRA that this is also not the time to politicise the issue of gun control?
 
Lefty said:
The current state of our Health Service is a result of political choices.
The decisions on sick pay, compensation, business support, what are they if not political questions?
The disconnect from the people who make these decisions but do not usually have to deal with the consequences, is that not an important consideration?
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You have pulled used her voting record against a policy such as ESA. That is not SSP, compensation, business support or anything alike. Its simply a post stating "oh look a tory is ill and getting full pay, what about the rest of us who don't get full pay"

Why is her pay even mentioned if its not about that
 
Lefty said:
How is this not a political issue? What else is it?

The current state of our Health Service is a result of political choices.
The decisions on sick pay, compensation, business support, what are they if not political questions?
The disconnect from the people who make these decisions but do not usually have to deal with the consequences, is that not an important consideration?

I'm left of centre, but I'll put science, critical thinking, pragmatism and empiricism ahead of ideology every time. However even on the science, there are choices being made and it's perfectly legitimate, not point scoring, to ask why we are choosing a minority opinion over a majority one.

When there is a school massacre in the USA, do you agree with the NRA that this is also not the time to politicise the issue of gun control?
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I was only talking about the tweet you posted not about the response to coronavirus. What has the mp’s work benefits (And the fact she’s using them) and voting history got anything to do with how the government is currently responding to it
 
Just seems a re hash of the original story with a mirror source added in who also quoted

The Mirror's source said despite the remarks the call was "professional" and firms wanted to help the national effort.

I think what is a lot more important is there was meeting in which the push for more ventilators went ahead with firms wanting to assist. Unfortunately someone would rather not concentrate on this but prefer to pick on a remark which at the end of the day makes zero difference.

Obviously again no quotes or link to him saying it. Similar to the no link of Corbyn saying he won't self isolate which seems to be suggestion if there is no link then it didn't happen
 
I could be professional all the way through a mortgage appointments

But if a call the customer a daft c@nt at the end of it I’ll expect some consequences

We need exceptional leadership, and that is not an example of leadership. It shows someone not taking the most serious issue in 75 years and being quite flippant about it
 
Cooper6711 said:
You have pulled used her voting record against a policy such as ESA. That is not SSP, compensation, business support or anything alike. Its simply a post stating "oh look a tory is ill and getting full pay, what about the rest of us who don't get full pay"

Why is her pay even mentioned if its not about that
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Ok, let's have a look at some more of her voting record.

Nadine Dorries is a Conservative MP, and on the vast majority of issues votes the same way as other Conservative MPs.

Generally voted for reducing housing benefit for social tenants deemed to have excess bedrooms (which Labour describe as the "bedroom tax")

Consistently voted against raising welfare benefits at least in line with prices

Almost always voted against paying higher benefits over longer periods for those unable to work due to illness or disability

Generally voted for making local councils responsible for helping those in financial need afford their council tax and reducing the amount spent on such support

Generally voted for a reduction in spending on welfare benefits

Consistently voted against spending public money to create guaranteed jobs for young people who have spent a long time unemployed

Generally voted against restricting the provision of services to private patients by the NHS

Almost always voted for reforming the NHS so GPs buy services on behalf of their patients

Generally voted for increasing the rate of VAT

Generally voted against increasing the tax rate applied to income over £150,000

Generally voted against a banker’s bonus tax

Almost always voted for more restrictive regulation of trade union activity

Generally voted for reducing capital gains tax

Consistently voted for capping civil service redundancy payments

Almost always voted for restricting the scope of legal aid

Voted against removing hereditary peers from the House of Lords

Consistently voted for university tuition fees

Voted for raising England’s undergraduate tuition fee cap to £9,000 per year

Consistently voted for ending financial support for some 16-19 year olds in training and further education

Then there was her stint on I'm A Celebrity, where she was a sitting MP who neglected her constituents and duties for a month, was suspended for failing to even notify the Chief Whip or PM David Cameron and then refused to declare her earnings from the show.

Oh, then there is the employment of her daughter who was among the highest-earning family members employed by MPs with a salary of £40,000–45,000 as an office manager, even though she lived 96 miles away from the office. Subsequently, Dorries' sister was taken on as "senior secretary" with a salary of £30,000–35,000.

She seems to be interested in helping out the wealthy and looking after herself and her mates, not so much those in greater need, in line with her Tory colleagues for the last 10 years. What do you think?

Here is a reminder of the impact of the policies she has supported has had over the last 10 years.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1194580555033133056


She is a health minister remember. Highlighting the insulation from her own policies is absolutely relevant and even more so in the wider context of what other Governments have announced as supporting measures for business and employees by contrast.
 
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