FabioPorkpie
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I believe Spanish Flu was a H1N1 influenza virus, NOT a coronavirus.25 minutes in, it's getting worse this.
Now apparently it doesn't do waves.......yet he want's to ignore Spanish flu
Not really sure what you mean by thisHe might want to check out how well water droplets dry up in summer and how much UV there is in summer v winter, and what happens when you lock down in dry/ warm months and then let everyone out in cold/ wet months.
We’ll see. If it plateaus and starts decreasing, then maybe it is as he describes, the tail of the initial outbreak working it’s way through those communities that were lesser exposed, as we all move indoors.The only way we're not in a second wave now (the UK) is if the first wave never ended, but seeing as we got down from 1000 deaths per day to about 10, then it's fair to say we are in second wave, as we're pretty much at 200 deaths per day, with winter to come.
I agree that he is very angry and does come across bitter. Given his credentials though and his main gripe with Vallance seemingly ignoring discussion of basic stuff, and the lack of relevant expert knowledge on SAGE for such a long time, maybe it is understandable, especially if he has tried to have this conversation with SAGE or offer his service to them.This guy just seems really bitter, like he's been kept out the loop.
No matter what you think of him, he is clearly extremely well informed on the topic and his cv is testament to that.
If he’s such a crank, surely it would be easy for Vallance et al to just answer his points in factual data and shut him up. I get that they shouldn’t waste their time responding to every Tom d*ck and Harry but this guy is openly, loudly and repeatedly putting himself out there through every channel he can, to be shot down and pulled apart. Presumably, having had such a high position in big pharma for so long, he isn’t doing this for monetary gain ( though who knows).
The fact he keeps putting himself out there to be shot down is what interests me the most. I listened to that podcasts with half a mind on wanting to pick fault, and I posted the original post in this thread to see if others could do so, where I could not.
So far, nobody has really convinced me that he is a crank OR that he is incorrect in what he is saying/predicting. I think only time will do that.
I also think it’s interesting that some on this thread jumped on the attack BEFORE they had even listened to what he has to say, and this is kind of the point of my original post. Just because I don’t like the platform he is operating on, and he is an alternative voice, that doesn’t mean I shouldn’t listen to him or that he may even be right.
I do think that some are struggling to look at what he has to say objectively, and to leave their own biases at the door before judging. I know I did just that, but I still came away thinking I couldn’t argue against the main gist of what he is proposing.
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