Glover_elbow
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Proving a lot of doubters wrong. Pity its for leeds but i am pleased for him
Bamford scoring for fun in the premier league
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afcb_acklam
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early days for him & leeds.... hopefully 
ChrisTheRed
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Hmmm... Not sure you can say scoring for fun...
Hardly up there with Calvert Lewin or Vardy is he.
Promising start but likely to drop off just like Leeds will in general.
Hardly up there with Calvert Lewin or Vardy is he.
Promising start but likely to drop off just like Leeds will in general.
Michael_Vronsky
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It beggars belief that he cost almost as much as Saville! Wonder what Gibbo thinks of all of this now. Harrison was... is exactly what we needed and we never played him! Madness on both Bamford and Harrison.
Marvanelli
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Blame one person. And one person only. Tony Clulis.
At least he left us with 500 central midfielders though.
hendrieswondergoal
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Bamford under a real manager: 3 games, 3 goals, 1 assist.
Bamford under Sean Dyche: Sat on the bench getting bullied for being 'posh'.
Lovely to see. Long may Burnley prop up the table on 0 points wishing Bamford was scoring for them.
Bamford under Sean Dyche: Sat on the bench getting bullied for being 'posh'.
Lovely to see. Long may Burnley prop up the table on 0 points wishing Bamford was scoring for them.
indeedido
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I bet you would be standing him just fine if he was in our number 9 shirt like he should be.
I wonder what Karanka thinks looking back at his January 2017 meltdown.
Wanted Jese, Bojan, Snodgrass. Got Bamford, Gestede, Guedioura.
Knowing what we know now, Snodgrass is the only one you'd really say we missed out on. I'd much rather have Bamford in the squad than Jese or Bojan.
Wanted Jese, Bojan, Snodgrass. Got Bamford, Gestede, Guedioura.
Knowing what we know now, Snodgrass is the only one you'd really say we missed out on. I'd much rather have Bamford in the squad than Jese or Bojan.
McBrid
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And Delefeou. I would have had him though.
I forgot about him. Probably another one AK would have had switching wings so he was near enough to be shouted at to defend.
coluka
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No, sorry Marv, I am not having that at all, you are giving the owner a get out of jail free card there. Pulis is not to Blame, he was the well paid public face for the owners decisions, a well paid fall guy who has broad shoulders. Gibson is to blame if anybody. Pulis did not run the club. Pulis was Gibsons ‘Oddjobb’. Nothing happens at Middlesbrough FC without the approval of Mr Gibson Imho. He must have wanted the deal to happen, Pulis merely facilitated things.
Why people blame managers for everything is beyond me. If anyone absolves the owner of responsibility in the buying and selling of players then you are kidding yourself. I doubt Pulis held a gun to the owners head and said you must sell Bamford so I can buy Saville. It will suit the owner for people to think that though
Marvanelli
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Where on earth have I give Gibson a get out of jail free card?
He was the idiot who picked Pulis as manager, and then continued to keep him in charge after that ridiculous 2nd leg performance at Villa Park - in which his P45 should've been printed the second the full time whistle blew as it was clear the bloke didn't have an absolute clue what he was doing.
However, if you seriously think it wasn't Pulis' decision to get rid of Bamford, and then sign a million midfielders, then I'm sorry, but you're in denial.
Pulis had the final say on transfers. Obviously Gibson has a say too, but the final decision was always down to Pulis.
Selling our best striker, and failing to replace him, was a truly remarkable decision....you didn't even need hindsight to see what a car crash that was going to be.
S7DiscoDown
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I think talksh*te said he'd played 23 (or 20 something) games in the prem before Leeds and only scored once.
Then said he'd only actually started 4 games. So it's hardly a way to judge him.
He was so badly treated at Norwich / Palace and Burnley. It's not like they were top sides were he wouldn't get a look in.
I think in hindsite he's the first to admit he should have done another year at Boro (although can understand the lure of a prem move). I have no doubt we would have signed him had we gone up instead of losing to Norwich.
Just another year and he could have been on the pitch against Brighton dancing with Grant and Gibson
. He basically wasted a whole year.
Then said he'd only actually started 4 games. So it's hardly a way to judge him.
He was so badly treated at Norwich / Palace and Burnley. It's not like they were top sides were he wouldn't get a look in.
I think in hindsite he's the first to admit he should have done another year at Boro (although can understand the lure of a prem move). I have no doubt we would have signed him had we gone up instead of losing to Norwich.
Just another year and he could have been on the pitch against Brighton dancing with Grant and Gibson
. He basically wasted a whole year.
coluka
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You said blame one person and one person only. Those were your words. You are a top poster and I generally agree with a lot you say. Gibson has a veto as owner, he ultimately decides. I am not in denial at all, some fans are. Some fans think the head coach has total responsibility. They don‘t. Bamford was sold for profit pure and simple Imho. Nobody wanted any of the other rubbish the owner wasted £40M + on. Pulis was Gibson henchmanlike to assist facilitate said profit imho. To suggest the owner does not have the final say is unbelievable, in fact it is ridiculous. People really are brainwashed it seems. To suggest an owner of a business does not have the final say on anything that occurs within a company over an employee is frankly ridiculous, sorry but it is.
I have banged on about Karanka pointing out his gifts. People mocked. We then had Downing state on BBC Radio Tees that Karanka did not want him and still people believe players are bought and sold by managers, it is laughable.
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Marvanelli
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Yes and I still blame Pulis for that decision because it was him who ultimately had the final say and told us to sell him.
Gibson, clearly has to sign the deal off, but he give Pulis full support over the decision because he put faith in Pulis.
As for previous transfer dealings under other managers, I agree. Southgate with Alves when he wanted Emerton....Karanka with Rhodes when he wanted McCormack etc....but with Pulis he had the final say.
Pulis is certainly not a yes man. He never has been and never will be.
So yes, I blame Pulis for the mess he left us in and the fact we sold our best striker and didn't replace him.
coluka
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Pulis, imho, is a money man first and foremost, there are people in this world who will do anything for money. I think he was asked to do a job and did exactly what he was paid to do, unfortunately for the fans, it was a failure. If anyone deserved the title of the man of a thousand faces, it wasn’t Lon Chaney. If you think the owner of a multi-million pound company would hand over total control of recruitment and retention then you are kidding yourself. What was Brian Conley’s catchphrase again?
Marvanelli
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And if you think Pulis was a yes man and controlled by a puppet master then I think you're kidding yourself.
He is definitely in it for the money first of all, all it takes is for anyone to see what he did at Palace, but he is certainly not someone who will be told who he can and can't buy.
The sale of Bamford IMO was purely down to Pulis.
He barely even played him as a striker when all our strikers were available...it was only injuries that forced his hand to play him up front...which ironically coincided with our best form - and the main reason we got in the play offs.