Beverleyred
Well-known member
Whatever your view, it’s a sting in the tail for the WASPI ladies.
In which case we are in agreementIt's relevant inasmuch as they should have written to them.
We have the worst state pension in Europe.It's a bit odd that some pensioners (or not as the case may be) are demanding compensation, at a time when the pension is the only thing which has not taken a massive beating, as it's been protected by the triple lock.
I don't think anyone is denying the historical inequalities, but it works both ways to a degree.And all this talk of equality ignores the historical inequalities in opportunity that women born in the 1950’s would have suffered.
Not just Europe; I'm in receipt of a US Social Security pension for the 21 years I was there......We have the worst state pension in Europe.
It really doesn't.Sure, they probably do deserve some compensation, 100% agree with that, but it needs to be means tested
I thought we were about half way up the list? Also, we also have one of the highest work based pensions, if not the highest. It was a big plus for a lot of jobs, even before it became mandatory.We have the worst state pension in Europe.
Pensions aren't welfare benefits.pensions are ~40% of the welfare budget.
Why shouldn't it be means tested? It's supposed compensation, why compensate the rich and the poor equally, assuming it would be untaxed? Baring in mind the rich likely also have private pensions too. Why not give the woman with nothing (as part of a couple) 2x , the woman with little(as part of a couple) 1x and the woman with 500k (as part of a couple), 0x?It really doesn't.
The state pension is not means tested, so the recompense for maladministration in the state pension should not be means tested either.
Pensions aren't welfare benefits.
Only because of the way they are defined. We have a comparable pension when you include all pension types. Germany and France for example have the equivalent of our private/occupational pension system included with their state pension so you would have to include them to be comparable.We have the worst state pension in Europe.
They did but they also made it easier to qualify when you are not in work so people on maternity leave, receiving child benefit, being a carer etc which means the chances of not getting the full pension are lower.There is another elephant in the room which has been forgotten when they changed the pension from 30 years contribution to 35 years i camnnot be the only one who is not getting the full pension!
We may compare unfavourably to fully comparable western European countries, but that statement is laughably false. We’re not even below the median. We pay 10 times more than the genuine worst, which is Armenia.We have the worst state pension in Europe.
Emily Thornberry having a nightmare on the TV rounds this morning.
Saying the government need to give ‘fair and fast justice’ to WASPI women whilst at the same time refusing to commit Labour to doing the same.
This despite Labour previously committing to restitution in full.
Yes I do - but in my opinion it shouldn’t have.
If we have equality which we should have it’s need to work both ways.
Why should a male who is exactly the same age as a female work years longer to get the same pension?
And as for them not knowing - I don’t believe that.
That was done on the back of a fag packet though and summed up the 2019 campaign.
Johnson said live on air when questioned he couldn’t commit to it so next day labour announced they would.
Thornberry is having a mare though, more so she just doesn’t want to say they won’t commit whilst making it perfectly obvious they won’t.
It’s gonna be pretty hard to lose this election so she might aswell just say it, labour will still win a landslide