Religious education in schools

i was surprised to see in my daughters school that they can drop RE after year 9.

as a result from 240 kids picking options there are only 14 picking RE

it is becoming less and less important to kids these days, i would say.
 
I left school in ‘99 and RE wasn’t compulsory from year 10 I think, you could choose it as an option like art, history or geography. I think only one kid picked RE and it was too few to continue it for my year group.

RE is fine if it’s learning about religion and culture, with a focus on the main religions present in the UK. It shouldn’t be about pushing any particular faith in my opinion.
 
The_Lizards_Jumpers said:
I'm agreeing with you.

I was pointing out that just because faith schools played a role in providing education for many children who otherwise wouldn't have got an education in times gone by (as remarked upon by the previous poster) this doesn't mean that we should have single faith schools, with the faith at the centre of the schools existence, in the multi-faith country we now live in.

I want my daughter to experience and learn about multi faiths, and their associated festivals, in order to foster an acceptance from a young age not be brainwashed into one religion just because of the school she attends.
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The only faith schools with faith at the centre of their existence now are fully private ones. All others are in agreement with the Government on what curriculum is taught and we all know that Governments are the very best people to decide what kids need teaching 🙄 Catholic schools were mixed from the beginning. Their original purpose was to teach the poor, but the Church has always understood that the first and best teachers of children are their parents. If you don't want to pass on your faith to your child, where do you think your child is going to get an understanding of what to worship from?
 
Glover_elbow said:
I like the french secular attitude ie religion should have no place on matters of state including schools.
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I think the problem with that is that it then leaves the teaching of religion to religious groups; inevitably they have their own angle on it.

I don't know enough about the French system: does it allow for teaching of comparative religion? It's been a major factor in shaping the world, and I don't think you can pretend it doesn't exist. That's very different from trying to indoctrinate kids into a religion.
 
Glover_elbow said:
I like the french secular attitude ie religion should have no place on matters of state including schools.
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Well, when the cap doffers go all weak at the knees with "God Save the King"........and the Archbishop of Canterbury has a seat in the fooking Lords...... along with the other 20+ Bishops.......removing religion from matters of state is not happening is it?
 
Smoggle said:
I left school in ‘99 and RE wasn’t compulsory from year 10 I think, you could choose it as an option like art, history or geography. I think only one kid picked RE and it was too few to continue it for my year group.

RE is fine if it’s learning about religion and culture, with a focus on the main religions present in the UK. It shouldn’t be about pushing any particular faith in my opinion.
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No non-core subject has been compulsory for decades. I left school in 1992 and I'd dropped RE after 3rd year secondary.
 
Left school in 2010 and I got an A in it as we did it as part of our GCSEs, no idea how as I have zero interest in it now.

Remember watching East is East over a couple of lessons.
 
h_m_boro said:
Well, when the cap doffers go all weak at the knees with "God Save the King"........and the Archbishop of Canterbury has a seat in the fooking Lords...... along with the other 20+ Bishops.......removing religion from matters of state is not happening is it?
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It should do though. Religions part in parliament and matters of state perpetuates the status quo ie inequality and the class system. France had the correct idea with religion and royalty off with thier heads
 
We had to do RE in senior school, left in 1996 - it was a mandatory subject, it was majority about Christianity not religion. We spent about 3 lessons in 5 years discussing other religions.

People of other faith were allowed to sit out the class and basically dossed in a rook for first 3 years and wasn't a mandatory subject for them.

Massive waste of time really . Could have been rolled up into other classes what we needed to actually know.
 
theboydom said:
The only faith schools with faith at the centre of their existence now are fully private ones. All others are in agreement with the Government on what curriculum is taught and we all know that Governments are the very best people to decide what kids need teaching 🙄 Catholic schools were mixed from the beginning. Their original purpose was to teach the poor, but the Church has always understood that the first and best teachers of children are their parents. If you don't want to pass on your faith to your child, where do you think your child is going to get an understanding of what to worship from?
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Why would you want to worship?
It's clear that who you worship is based on geography so that kind of does away with the " one allmighty". But seriously what or who are you worshiping?. As I said to some evangelists at my door last week. If your god exists, tell him he's a sadist with a sick sense of humour
 
guisborough_rob said:
Personally, I loved hearing about and learning about other religions and, subsequently, the cultures of those religions. So, yes I would keep it.

As for hymn singing, keep it in primary schools where it can be easily and neutrally taught, encompassing songs and hymns from other cultures.

I still enjoy some of the hymns I learned 55 years or so ago and get a lot out of singing some of them every couple of weeks. But then, I just love singing and it really doesn’t matter what it is I actually sing.
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Or how well you sing it I’ve heard 😉
 
Osboro said:
Why would you want to worship?
It's clear that who you worship is based on geography so that kind of does away with the " one allmighty". But seriously what or who are you worshiping?. As I said to some evangelists at my door last week. If your god exists, tell him he's a sadist with a sick sense of humour
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We are built to worship, so think about what you place your highest value on, and generally that is what you are worshipping. I choose to worship the God who sent his only Son, Jesus Christ, to save me (and the rest of mankind) through the Church he established. Plenty of people have and always will worship other gods, some choose to worship other people or material things. That won't stop because RE is taught differently (or not at all) in schools, it is a fundamental urge in all of us.
 
Quicksilvera said:
Where do you stand on this? Should our children be taught religious studies?

I think so, I would also frame it different and maybe call it humanity studies or something, I think if our children learn about all religions and their customs and cultures it will help to prevent hatred, I would also use the subject to talk about race and other nations customs.
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Agree. Think it's actually really important kids learn about religions and culture. Whether people like it or not religion is still a significant part of society.

Respect and tolerance for other cultures and beliefs is a big part of being a well rounded adult.

A lot of hate and intolerance comes from ignorance.

Seems to be a big part of my kids curriculum in primary school, which I'm all for. They visited a Sikh temple last week, which they really found interesting.

Didn't realise there was talk of removing it, but wouldn't be surprised. No doubt seen as woke nonsense by our common sense government.
 
theboydom said:
We are built to worship, so think about what you place your highest value on, and generally that is what you are worshipping. I choose to worship the God who sent his only Son, Jesus Christ, to save me (and the rest of mankind) through the Church he established. Plenty of people have and always will worship other gods, some choose to worship other people or material things. That won't stop because RE is taught differently (or not at all) in schools, it is a fundamental urge in all of us.
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We are built to worship. What a crock of shîte.

The reason religion is taught in faith schools is simple,its indoctrination at early age before children are old enough make their own minds up.
 
Glover_elbow said:
It should do though. Religions part in parliament and matters of state perpetuates the status quo ie inequality and the class system. France had the correct idea with religion and royalty off with thier heads
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Yeah, cos building a secular state on the principle of murdering people who stand in the way of progress is always a good foundation for future harmony and love 🙄
 
Glover_elbow said:
It should do though. Religions part in parliament and matters of state perpetuates the status quo ie inequality and the class system. France had the correct idea with religion and royalty off with thier heads
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State and church were legally separated in France in 1905. France operates under the principal of Laïcité which can be difficult to understand. A brief potted history:
theconversation.com

France’s laïcité: why the rest of the world struggles to understand it

Why are Emmanuel Macron’s reform plans so controversial and why are people protesting about freedom after another spate of violent attacks?
theconversation.com theconversation.com
 
Glover_elbow said:
We are built to worship. What a crock of shîte.

The reason religion is taught in faith schools is simple,its indoctrination at early age before children are old enough make their own minds up.
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So 'worship' and 'religion' are not interchangeable here. I think you've misunderstood my point. Also interesting that you doubt your fellow subjects of King Charles III ability to make up their own minds about things. Did you go to a Republican 'murder the Royals' school and are now unable to think differently?
 
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