Glover_elbow
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We cant play out the season with obrien and Barlaser as a midfield two. Five at the back from here on in
Play 3 centre backs. Villa, Chelsea and Leicester it worked. Why revert to the 4-2-3-1 today when it doesn’t suit us, especially with no striker. Bizarre team and formation selection. We underestimated Plymouth and they played us off the park.As he has said many times, it's not about formations it's about people taking responsibility & effecting play in areas of the pitch..
Formations are just for the media & pundits..
Flat lemonade at thatTrying to play champagne football with lemonade players.
I don't get this argument that such a basic, standard system as 4-2-3-1 "doesn't suit us". I said it in another thread earlier but 4-2-3-1 suits basically any club in the world. You'd encounter the same problems we have playing this way that we would in any other formation.Play 3 centre backs. Villa, Chelsea and Leicester it worked. Why revert to the 4-2-3-1 today when it doesn’t suit us? Bizarre team and formation selection. We underestimated Plymouth and they played us off the park.
Strange that he changed formation for teams he thought we were inferior to then isn't it?As he has said many times, it's not about formations it's about people taking responsibility & effecting play in areas of the pitch..
Formations are just for the media & pundits..
Fcuking PlymouthPlay 3 centre backs. Villa, Chelsea and Leicester it worked. Why revert to the 4-2-3-1 today when it doesn’t suit us, especially with no striker. Bizarre team and formation selection. We underestimated Plymouth and they played us off the park.
I broadly agree actually. The tempo is all wrong. We had numerous chances to quickly get moving up pitch today but someone would turn back, look around, and then move again… by which time the opposition are all back into position, all the space blocked off and we end up knocking it side to side or back at the ‘keeper.The formation isn’t the issue. It’s the insistence on playing out from the back at a snail’s pace even when the opposition overload us and not being able to pick out a pass or retain the ball when we’re under pressure. We’re far too rigid. Even the “fluid” movements of the attacking players are fixed routines that teams can spend all week working on interrupting. We need more improvisation and better decision making in all areas of the pitch.
For the fifth season in a row............Sick of saying this but we really need a big strong athletic holding midfielder.
More chance of getting a monorail.For the fifth season in a row............
More chance of getting a monorail.
It amazes me that we can't find one of these young lads who revel in breaking up play. They don't need to be ballers, just know how and when to cover and be mobile enough to get their and snuff out danger.
He may well be, but how can Carrick drop Barlaser when he’s playing out of his skin?I had hopes for Agyemang when we signed him. Thought he could of been 'that guy '
I don't think he's got the pace to get away from his skin.He may well be, but how can Carrick drop Barlaser when he’s playing out of his skin?
I don't get this argument that such a basic, standard system as 4-2-3-1 "doesn't suit us". I said it in another thread earlier but 4-2-3-1 suits basically any club in the world. You'd encounter the same problems we have playing this way that we would in any other formation.
The 3 at the back worked against Villa, Chelsea, and Leicester because they were games where we looked to get players behind the ball and try to catch them on the break from the get go because they're significantly stronger teams than us, and we got a bit of luck in two of those games, and one of them we got absolutely battered. We shouldn't be looking to sit back against most of the teams in this league, and if we played the same way as we do now in a different formation, again, you'd just run in to the same problems as you would any other formation.
We have no dynamism in the team without Jones, and even with him it's pretty lopsided in how dependent on him it is. As it is we're just laborious and plodding and slow. There's next to no pace or drive through the middle of the pitch between Barlaser, Howson, Hackney, and O'Brien, we have a right back whose legs have gone, and his backup is just as likely to have a nightmare as he is a blinder on any given day, we basically have no true left winger, and we have midfielders playing up front all the time. You're gonna encounter those same problems irrespective of what formation you play.
More chance of getting a monorail.
It amazes me that we can't find one of these young lads who revel in breaking up play. They don't need to be ballers, just know how and when to cover and be mobile enough to get their and snuff out danger.