red_harrington
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If you want to know anything at all about EVs we have a resident member of this board who is an expert on the subject and the very person to ask @JustTheGent
If you want to know anything at all about EVs we have a resident member of this board who is an expert on the subject and the very person to ask @JustTheGent
But if you are only pottering about town the batteries dont get enough charge so you end up using the engine all the time anywayA Self charging hybrid is the way to go, you don’t have to plug the ‘uggers in, but around town in economy drive they are brilliant, doing most of it in electric mode.
Not exactly, if you brake or or lift off the accelerator that charges the battery, if it does get low the engine will cut in to charge the battery as well in order for it to go electric.But if you are only pottering about town the batteries dont get enough charge so you end up using the engine all the time anyway
Not necessarily true Si, my Honda HRV and our lasses Jazz keep their charge very well, and as Hobble says above about his Toyota they can self charge very quickly. I can leave mine on the drive for a few days and still drive off in electric mode.But if you are only pottering about town the batteries dont get enough charge so you end up using the engine all the time anyway
Care to expand on this ST? I was close to buying a plug-in hybrid as almost all of my journeys are short and I could charge from my solar panels for 6 months of the year. Opted for full electric in the end, which is a fantastic motor.No. Petrol charging hybrids are a terrible idea
Not exactly, if you brake or or lift off the accelerator that charges the battery, if it does get low the engine will cut in to charge the battery as well in order for it to go electric.
I cannot get under 67 mpg on my yaris.
Care to expand on this ST? I was close to buying a plug-in hybrid as almost all of my journeys are short and I could charge from my solar panels for 6 months of the year. Opted for full electric in the end, which is a fantastic motor.
They don't use petrol to charge the electric system, in a dedicated way, do they? I thought they only banked the braking energy (via the motor) into the battery, or used some of the otherwise lost energy to stick into a battery.Care to expand on this ST? I was close to buying a plug-in hybrid as almost all of my journeys are short and I could charge from my solar panels for 6 months of the year. Opted for full electric in the end, which is a fantastic motor.
As someone who has had two EV's and currently got an EV and a Hybrid I would probably advise most people to avoid cars from ~4 years ago, unless they were 2nd or 3rd gen battery EV's, and the choice on that will be fairly limited I expect.
Although, saying that, that's only to avoid scaring people off who think they need 300 miles of range or whatever, when most don't. As you say, a new/ long range EV isn't necessary for you, as only do 40 miles a day, so you could actually use the theory that 1st gen EV's are bad to your advantage, you would probably pick up something basic very cheap, and it would be extremely cheap to run.
Costs to run and service a 4 year old EV will be extremely cheap, probably the cheapest motoring possible, and the battery likely in warranty for another 4-6 years and the car will rust to dust (like any other car) before the motor needs any work.
Don't worry too much about that 8-10 year battery warranty either, if they're offering batteries that long, they probably expect them to stay in spec at least 50% more time, and even then the spec might be 90% battery life etc. They won't be expecting loads of battery warranty replacements, put it that way.
2020 was the year things started to really change for EV's though, and there would be plenty of options which had a 200 mile range, which may degrade to like 160-180 miles by 2030. Of course that's still enough range to do more than enough of a job for 90% of the people, for 99% of their driving.
All depends on what you want to spend of course, you can get a 2020 Tesla Model 3 for @20k with 25k miles on it, which would still do 250 miles range by 2030 I reckon. There would be a few good options at half that price with over 150 mile range I reckon.
We don't all need to go off road though.It would appear that older EV's will become unsellable after 6 or more years old. My Freelander 2 is coming up 10 years old has 45000 miles on the clock and still does 430 miles on a full tank. A good used version would be £8000n no contest which I would go for.
No they aren't.No. Petrol charging hybrids are a terrible idea
That's the route I've gone. My drive to work is half electric/half petrol. Not polluting anyone around the estate or churning out fumes in low speed traffic/built up areas. And still 50MPG+ for a big car.A Self charging hybrid is the way to go, you don’t have to plug the ‘uggers in, but around town in economy drive they are brilliant, doing most of it in electric mode.