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If we are downing tools so early.. why bother with Ayling? Why keep McNair and Hoppe on? Why not send Alex Gilbert out on loan?
 
Every single match, outside of Saturday 3pm, will be broadcast on Sky next season too.

So they're significantly increasing the costs when it's never been easier to watch it at home (ignoring dodgy sources), and they've not even tried to put a positive spin on it.
 
TeaCider said:
Every single match, outside of Saturday 3pm, will be broadcast on Sky next season too.

So they're significantly increasing the costs when it's never been easier to watch it at home (ignoring dodgy sources), and they've not even tried to put a positive spin on it.
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As I've said elsewhere, there's a part of me (the small part of me that likes to think 'outside the box') that wonders if this is all part of a ploy to influence the 3pm blackout in some way.
 
atypical_boro said:
As I've said elsewhere, there's a part of me (the small part of me that likes to think 'outside the box') that wonders if this is all part of a ploy to influence the 3pm blackout in some way.
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Pathetic if so though. I watch every away game anyway, there’s always a way to watch them if you’re not there so that shouldn’t be in there thinking.
 
TeaCider said:
Every single match, outside of Saturday 3pm, will be broadcast on Sky next season too.

So they're significantly increasing the costs when it's never been easier to watch it at home (ignoring dodgy sources), and they've not even tried to put a positive spin on it.
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And 38% of weekend matches will be moved.
 
£107 million

Just to pour fuel on the fire is what Gibson “paid” personally extra for his season ticket this year 😈
 
Diego said:
Pathetic if so though. I watch every away game anyway, there’s always a way to watch them if you’re not there so that shouldn’t be in there thinking.
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Oh I haven't worked it out yet. But is there a benefit in them being able to say 'look all our fans watch the matches on Firesticks now, so lift the blackout'.

Do we have more fans around the country (ie based 'away') who we think we could extract more revenue from if the EFL embraced streaming more than it currently does?

Or is it the opposite. They're hacked off that more games will be legally streamed next year and they want attendances to be demonstrably impacted negatively so they can claim it was a stupid decision to do so?

Maybe I'm over-thinking, but we pretty much know any surplus they make from raising the prices isn't lining Gibson's pockets. In a way it might be easier to understand if thats what he WAS doing.
 
atypical_boro said:
Oh I haven't worked it out yet. But is there a benefit in them being able to say 'look all our fans watch the matches on Firesticks now, so lift the blackout'.

Do we have more fans around the country (ie based 'away') who we think we could extract more revenue from if the EFL embraced streaming more than it currently does?

Or is it the opposite. They're hacked off that more games will be legally streamed next year and they want attendances to be demonstrably impacted negatively so they can claim it was a stupid decision to do so?

Maybe I'm over-thinking, but we pretty much know any surplus they make from raising the prices isn't lining Gibson's pockets.
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Well if that was his ploy, he's gave them an easy defence by increasing his prices hasn't he.

Gibson - look my attendances are down 20% since you lifted the 3pm black out

EFL - No, your attendances are down because you aren't competing for promotion anymore, bought absolute dross in the last two transfer windows and on top of that had the cheek to raise your ticket prices despite already being amongst the most expensive in the league
 
All well and good the club blaming inflation, fuel prices etc but they seem to ignore the fact that these things affect everyone. Very few people will have had inflation matching pay rises.

So fans, in a poor area of the country, who are already squeezed, are expected to shell out even more for tickets. At some point something has to give. It might do this year for a lot of people. If it does the club only have themselves to blame.

How much extra is it going to generate anyway? £1.5m or so? Not a small amount of money but also not an amount that's going to make or break a season.

The club could absorb the costs if they really wanted to. They're choosing not to.
 
atypical_boro said:
Oh I haven't worked it out yet. But is there a benefit in them being able to say 'look all our fans watch the matches on Firesticks now, so lift the blackout'.

Do we have more fans around the country (ie based 'away') who we think we could extract more revenue from if the EFL embraced streaming more than it currently does?

Or is it the opposite. They're hacked off that more games will be legally streamed next year and they want attendances to be demonstrably impacted negatively so they can claim it was a stupid decision to do so?

Maybe I'm over-thinking, but we pretty much know any surplus they make from raising the prices isn't lining Gibson's pockets. In a way it might be easier to understand if thats what he WAS doing.
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I get the point you are trying to make don’t get me wrong but I just personally think it’s pointless if that’s the angle they are going for
 
Diego said:
I get the point you are trying to make don’t get me wrong but I just personally think it’s pointless if that’s the angle they are going for
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Yeah you might be completely right, but we don't know what is going on behind the scenes at the grandular detail.

I'm, otherwise, at a bit of a loss about this increase. I sort of understood/accepted it last year as we were still well in with a shout of PL football.
 
MoggasDog said:
I understand the overwhelming bad reaction from this. I just dont see what the club can do.

However, this is the reality of football today. Players are being paid vast sums of money. Very, very ordinary players are getting 10s of £1000s/week. If you look at the clubs annual return, the wage bill is ridiculous in terms of turn over.
We are all living through high inflation and all prices are going up every single year.
English football has become a plaything for foreign billionaires who are spending billions on players and wages without any hope of profit. FFP has, so far, done nothing to dissuade any wealthy owners from from spending this mental amount of money.
Over the last couple of years, even the championship has been bought up by foreign billionaires.
It is inevitable that, sooner rather than later, a big club is going to go bust when these people decide they actually dont want to play anymore. Or FFP will be enforced and some big clubs end up being demoted.

We, as a club, have been propped up for many, many years by a chairman who is happy to absorb the losses as a tax write off for other, successful businesses he owns.
To watch a team paid so much money is going to keep going up and up. Sport in the US does the same to the point that average people just cannot afford to attend the games.
Either every single club gets together to make a stand or individually they each have to decide what level they can afford to play at. At the moment, it looks as though we can manage to stay in the Championship. But if it wasnt for the losses being written off - could we afford to break even in the Championship?
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Gate receipts amount to a third of our income. Gate receipts don't fundamentally cover the rising costs of the club or transfer/wages.
 
festa5 said:
All well and good the club blaming inflation, fuel prices etc but they seem to ignore the fact that these things affect everyone. Very few people will have had inflation matching pay rises.

So fans, in a poor area of the country, who are already squeezed, are expected to shell out even more for tickets. At some point something has to give. It might do this year for a lot of people. If it does the club only have themselves to blame.

How much extra is it going to generate anyway? £1.5m or so? Not a small amount of money but also not an amount that's going to make or break a season.

The club could absorb the costs if they really wanted to. They're choosing not to.
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McNair, Barlaser, Gilbert & Hoppe..
for
Hannah, Bridge, McCabe & Matthews

Price Freeze.. job done

£1.5m.. guaranteed price freeze.. but you have to do without..

Ayling - £250k
McNair - £500k
Barlaser - £750k

From January.. they get replaced with academy lads.

Plus send Gilbert & Hoppe out on loan.. again.. academy lads.
 
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I’m fully expecting the club to announce an extension to the deadline, giving people to the end of March.

That way it’ll look like they’ve listened to their customers- and it’ll make the increase easier to swallow.

#marketinggenius
 
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