Spain back on the UK banned travel list

BoroMart said:
so what is the issue with having a 14 day isolation rather than a test on return?
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Could easy have caught it on your last day or even on the flight home so a test wouldnt pick this up if tested at the airport. Totally feasible to test negative at the airport but then be positive a few days later, possibly infecting people at work etc before you realise. At least with a 14 day isolation it takes away that risk.

Think anyone planning to go abroad is taking a big risk, even leaving it last minute to book you still run the risk of something like this happening.
 
tonybiriyani said:
As things stand, I'm pretty sure that if you have symptoms you are sent home from work until you've had a test, so what is the difference?
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If you have symptoms you are likely to have had it several days and already infected people....that's the difference and kind of important
 
borolad259 said:
For the poor buggers who have to book their holidays well in advance, this is harsh/grim, so they don't really need holier than thou, judgemental posts on here. Thanks. So no more.
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if I'm not doing it, then I will be holier than thou, like I don't murder people, so I can be holier than thou at murderers.

Everyone has sympathy for people that have to book in advance, but they have largely had options to cancel. Everyone is gutted holiday plans have been disrupted, but if businesses pay people for going on holiday then spending 2 weeks at home in isolation, then more people will lose their jobs. Things have changed, we all have to get used to that.
 
boro_boy1984 said:
think the issue is you might test negative but still have the virus whilst its in the incubation period?
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correct, it was a rhetorical response to another user previous statements. It has been clear for sometime that quarantine is essential to control. Anyone who has booked a holiday in the last 4 months+ and are now worried that they will have to take an extra 2 weeks holiday or unpaid leave, they knew there was a risk, they gambled and lost. Anyone who had the opportunity to cancel a holiday, and didn't I have more sympathy for them, as they were already emotionally bought in, but they were also well aware that there was risk. Finally anyone that has not had the option to cancel, I have full sympathy for them, it sucks, but lots of us have lost out. I've had no work, no income for 4 months, there is no one to blame for this, so I'll just accept it is what it is.
 
BoroMart said:
if I'm not doing it, then I will be holier than thou, like I don't murder people, so I can be holier than thou at murderers.

Everyone has sympathy for people that have to book in advance, but they have largely had options to cancel. Everyone is gutted holiday plans have been disrupted, but if businesses pay people for going on holiday then spending 2 weeks at home in isolation, then more people will lose their jobs. Things have changed, we all have to get used to that.
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Nope. Options to cancel aren't a thing when you've booked flights with Ryan Air and booked private accommodation, back in August of last year. We are looking at potentially losing in the region of two and a half grand.
 
petrio said:
Nope. Options to cancel aren't a thing when you've booked flights with Ryan Air and booked private accommodation, back in August of last year. We are looking at potentially losing in the region of two and a half grand.
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Like I said in another post, I feel for people that have not had an option to cancel, that's crap. Many people are impacted in many ways through no fault of their own, I've lost a small fortune in potential income because my project got mothballed and businesses were not hiring, luckily I started a new role this week, but it is what it is, I'll suck it up and move on.
 
BoroMart said:
Like I said in another post, I feel for people that have not had an option to cancel, that's crap. Many people are impacted in many ways through no fault of their own, I've lost a small fortune in potential income because my project got mothballed and businesses were not hiring, luckily I started a new role this week, but it is what it is, I'll suck it up and move on.
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OK Thanks. We are looking at options but none are looking too promising at the moment. Worst case scenario is we lose all the money and money is just money. Gonna break my little girl's heart, which is the worst bit. Feeling an emotional response to it all at the moment, so I'll leave it there.
 
petrio said:
OK Thanks. We are looking at options but none are looking too promising at the moment. Worst case scenario is we lose all the money and money is just money. Gonna break my little girl's heart, which is the worst bit. Feeling an emotional response to it all at the moment, so I'll leave it there.
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Good luck with your fight, kids are resilient, she'll bounce back before you know it
 
BoroFur said:
I may have mis-heard or must-read but the FCO advice regarding non-essential travel TO Spain only applies to the mainland. However, COMING BACK the 14 day quarantine applies to travellers from the mainland AND the islands.
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You are in fact correct, apologies, however they do say ‘watch this space’ or similar, about the Canaries, so common sense may apply. There is no virus here so quarantine makes no sense. For us Personally we could cope, or not bother coming back, so not a problem, but feel for the peeps who’ve just come out and the businesses here who’ve stocked up for the influx.
 
Transport Minister Grant Shapps is currently on holiday ..........in Spain. Hopefully our media will ensure he stays in quarantine on his return.
 
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kuepper said:
Transport Minister Grant Shapps is currently on holiday ..........in Spain. Hopefully our media will ensure he stays in quarantine on his return.
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He'll be allowed to go where he wants under some lie that he is having daily testing and so he's fine
 
If you booked your holiday before March, then I would think companies would be lenient on people coming back and having to quarantine. If you booked it after that then you can't expect sympathy or paid leave. You know the risks
 
One of the strictest national lockdowns in the world followed by localised lockdowns.
Mandatory mask use.
Mandatory glove use in shops.

🤔
 
petrio said:
Absolutely gutted. We are due to fly out in just over two weeks time. I can't quarantine for two weeks on return, as I have to return to teaching about ten days after. Can't imagine Ryan Air refunding flights and not sure what the owner of our accommodation will say.
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petrio said:
Last year.
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If you have travel insurance you might be covered as you booked pre covid
 
Duffman said:
Why are people flying to Spain? We have had two holidays a year overseas, often to Spain for the last 30 years but ruled out leaving the UK this year as soon as the extent of the pandemic became obvious. The risks are so high and it isn’t a holiday to visit other plague infested countries where we have to live inside masks with exceptionally limited freedoms. I get people were desperate for a few weeks in the sun but it is a huge risk in so many ways and a reintroduction of quarantine on return was bound to happen and needed to be factored into your decision making. Unless you had 4 weeks holiday leave available you should expect your company to not automatically give you a couple of extra weeks off because you chose to visit Spain. Time people faced consequences of their decision making.
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What’s the difference staying in a plague infested country and travelling to one.

What’s the difference between taking a flight to Spain or a train journey to Cornwall?
 
JM14 said:
Could easy have caught it on your last day or even on the flight home so a test wouldnt pick this up if tested at the airport. Totally feasible to test negative at the airport but then be positive a few days later, possibly infecting people at work etc before you realise. At least with a 14 day isolation it takes away that risk.

Think anyone planning to go abroad is taking a big risk, even leaving it last minute to book you still run the risk of something like this happening.
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All these scenarios scream that a better and/or easily accessed , repeatable test would be massively helpful.
 
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