Why Are Younger People Against The Triple Lock

(not the social life that goes with it at times mind).
Completely agree. Everywhere you go the boomers are out in force. Went to Dublin last week and you couldn't move for grey hairs living it up with all the money the government continue to bribe them with. Like you - I'm all for a pension, but not the social life that goes with it at times.
 
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I hear the intergenerational foundation seem to think so.
I did one of the you gov daily polls yesterday and the results were very strongly for or in favour of the triple lock but there was no age group break down.

My kids are in their 20’s and never mention the triple lock compared to things like the nhs and Brexit. I appreciate they are not necessarily typical.
 
This is divide and rule to an extent and not all Boomers are bad.

But. Have you seen the way they vote in every election and every opinion poll? It's not hard to see why young people have some resentment.
You do realise many boomers vote Labour, Liberal, Greens too don’t you. If you think people of a certain age vote tory because of their age, you are kidding yourself, its historical. Most people wer wedded to a party through life chance and opportunity. Older people are more likely to vote though I’d guess, as with age comes understanding. I think we might well experience a period of Labour being in power more as the generations move forward and others slip off the register. I was more against the older generation and thought I knew best, I learned through age and life experience that in my 20’s i knew feck all, my 30’s i began to realise about priorities and life planning, in my 40’s i was morphing into my father, at 50 i began to really understand the need for planning and wished I had listened more when i was younger.
 
And it's worth pointing out most of us have had fook all handed to us on a plate.
Compared to this generation you did. Don't think anyone is saying it was easy but you could achieve a lot with a bit of graft, that's impossible for a lot of the younger generation now.
 
Completely agree. Everywhere you go the boomers are out in force. Went to Dublin last week and you couldn't move for grey hairs living it up with all the money the government continue to bribe them with. Like you - I'm all for a pension, but not the social life that goes with it at times.
I am sure you will find lots of pensioners without too. I guess you wont want to feel hard work allows you to have a comfortable life over 65? Do you think older people don’t deserve a break away, only younger people? You afforded the trip, why not older people too. Ah yes, I think i called out your ageist approach before, when your older, and i hope you make it, you’ll maybe have become educated to wanting to be treated as an equal by the generations before you. You do not do your generation any favours with comments like that.
 
I’ve just looked up that inter generational foundation and it looks to be a think tank lobbying type organisation?

I suppose if you ask skint young people who are loaded with debt and high rents or mortgages if the triple lock is too gold plated for pensioners then you will get a certain answer. Maybe similar if you ask about tax avoiders at the same time.
 
I am sure you will find lots of pensioners without too. I guess you wont want to feel hard work allows you to have a comfortable life over 65? Do you think older people don’t deserve a break away, only younger people? You afforded the trip, why not older people too. Ah yes, I think i called out your ageist approach before, when your older, and i hope you make it, you’ll maybe have become educated to wanting to be treated as an equal by the generations before you. You do not do your generation any favours with comments like that.
Isn’t the U.K. average pensioner income 15k? Hardly luxury is it?
 
And it's worth pointing out most of us have had fook all handed to us on a plate.
It's probably worth noting that nano made a couple of ridiculous sweeping statements. Boomers call younger generations lazy and that boomers have had everything handed to us on a plate.

Neither is anywhere near being true.
 
Someone once posted a brilliant Political cartoon on here. It was of an upper class person with a plate full of pies telling someone with one pie that they (lower classes) are after his pie. I wish I knew how to find and post it as it would be so fitting for this thread.
 
It is worth pointing out that youngsters aren't struggling because of the triple lock. Ending it wouldn't funnel more help their way.
 
I am sure you will find lots of pensioners without too. I guess you wont want to feel hard work allows you to have a comfortable life over 65? Do you think older people don’t deserve a break away, only younger people? You afforded the trip, why not older people too. Ah yes, I think i called out your ageist approach before, when your older, and i hope you make it, you’ll maybe have become educated to wanting to be treated as an equal by the generations before you. You do not do your generation any favours with comments like that.
I'm the same age as you are Col. I was there working. I was pointing out just how condescending towards young folk your point about uni students was.
You clearly didn't spot it.
 
And it's worth pointing out most of us have had fook all handed to us on a plate.
This is a big part of the problem because you don't see it but you have (as a group, not necessarily as individuals). If you bought a house, which 80% of over 65s have then you have benefited from house price increases. You might not have been given the money directly but wealth among that demographic has increased massively to the point those assets are now unaffordable for the following generations. 25 years ago fewer than 1 in 10 35-45 year olds were renting, these days it is 3 in 10 and it's only heading in one direction. If the trend persists into the future then we'll be at 50% before long and the majority of people won't own their homes.

When people say "handed on a plate" they are really saying assets have increased in value without you doing anything, you had the opportunity to go to university for free instead of being saddled with £60k of debt, houses were affordable for everyone, public services were better.

We talk all the time about what the Tories have taken away and they have, it is undeniable, but who is voting for them? It is the older generations and that is why they are being blamed.

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Isn’t the U.K. average pensioner income 15k? Hardly luxury is it?
I don’t know, it will vary there will be those better off and those not i suspect the haves will be fewer than the have nots, particularly amongst females due to child raising and home making reasons. I read somewhere that a single person retiring on a moderate lifestyle would need around £25K. I think the basic minimum was something like £13K which is well below the state pension payment. People like Dybuk probably think older people should just sit at home and wait for Sainsburys to deliver their shopping and watch TV and be grateful... till time catches up with him of course, then it’ll be different.
 
Someone once posted a brilliant Political cartoon on here. It was of an upper class person with a plate full of pies telling someone with one pie that they (lower classes) are after his pie. I wish I knew how to find and post it as it would be so fitting for this thread.
Think you're referring to one about Rupert Murdoch and immigrants. But the point is pretty much the same.

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The triple lock was brought in because the pension is crap poor and next to impossible to live off.
As For Drybuks comment about grey hairs living it up in Dublin- well you can bet your last penny that the state pension would not pave paid for it.
Other countries have decent state pensions, there is absolutely no need for our pensioners to be left in poverty.
The government should tax the corporations and close the tax loopholes, recover the money lost to covid fraud, eat out to help out fraud, reform MP's expenses, (did you know that although there is a two child cap on benefits MP's can claim for three children at £5400 each as an expense related to their second homes if the rent is high). This is on top of their £22700 rental allowance.
When people are shouting at pensioners trying to eke an existence on the state pension, they are shouting the wrong people.
 
Coluka you didn't read my reply then?
So my cards on the table. I'm well into my fifties now.
My views:
The triple lock was put in place because those receiving only a state pension were in absolute dire straights. The tripple lock was a very good thing.
The current generation of retirees who have no company pension are still in absolute dire straights.
The current generation of retirees who have a final salary pension have it better than any generation before have had or any generation after will have so they should feel very very lucky.
My life has been a hell of a lot easier than the lives that young folk will have. I feel very lucky. I was able to buy a house and go to uni without creating a millstone round my neck.
There are entitled gits in every age group. Tarring an age group (even snide coments about uni student always out enjoying themselves) is wrong and causes intergenerational problems.
Most older people do vote tory. I've no idea why but I can understand the anger of younger people who see that vote as a very self serving vote.
 
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I'm the same age as you are Col. I was there working. I was pointing out just how condescending towards young folk your point about uni students was.
You clearly didn't spot it.
You’ve made ageist comments about older people before. what is condescending about agreeing uni students should get free education btw, or do you mean the the bit about the social life that goes with it at times comment. (Note the at times element if so). I spend time in Cambridge and York and the students are usually out in force having a good time, nowt wrong with that at all btw, my comment was that shouldn’t be covered by grants or state loans. If you find that condescending, then thats your view, I’m happy with my view ta.
 
As For Drybuks comment about grey hairs living it up in Dublin- well you can bet your last penny that the state pension would not pave paid for it.
Another one that thinks it's perfectly reaqsonable for Col to say he doesn't agree with students having a social life but has a go at me saying the same thing about older people. You see how biased you are?
 
You’ve made ageist comments about older people before. what is condescending about agreeing uni students should get free education btw, or do you mean the the bit about the social life that goes with it at times comment. (Note the at times element if so). I spend time in Cambridge and York and the students are usually out in force having a good time, nowt wrong with that at all btw, my comment was that shouldn’t be covered by grants or state loans. If you find that condescending, then thats your view, I’m happy with my view ta.
Do I find it condescending that you don;t agree with young folk going out but get all uppity if the exact same thing is said about old folk - yeah I do. Ta
 
If the TL continues to increase at it,s current rate and a small private pension added that would place your income into the tax system surely
 
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