Stop buying fake football shirts

But those DHG shirts dont have the badge or errea label so theyre just the same as the 80s snides with sew on badges, for me.
 
Well the Club holds the monopoly on the shirts, sort of, so is it greed on their behalf not to sell in on the high street. Works both ways.
 
Norfolkred1 said:
Well the Club holds the monopoly on the shirts, sort of, so is it greed on their behalf not to sell in on the high street. Works both ways.
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It's strange that Leicester City got fined £880k for not letting JD Sports undercut them, but we can just stop other companies selling our kits altogether and that's perfectly fine.
 
We have fans World wide who demand to wear shirts to follow their team. The Clubs seems to want to keep it local for local fans unless you buy on line from the Club which obviously incurs VAT for non EU customers, so I see why people go don the cheaper option.
 
Norfolkred1 said:
We have fans World wide who demand to wear shirts to follow their team. The Clubs seems to want to keep it local for local fans unless you buy on line from the Club which obviously incurs VAT for non EU customers, so I see why people go don the cheaper option.
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Pretty clear that's down to Steve "parochial" Gibson.

Kind of ironic where the league of gentlemen got the name of their town from.

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I'm not going to lose any sleep over people in probably the most selfish and dodgy legal industry that we encounter in our daily lives missing out on the last few quid that they try and extract from us.

I'm not going to buy them; I'm a middle aged man who feels silly wearing a T-shirt never mind a football shirt but the clubs take the mick out of the fans with these products and everyone, even if they pretend not to, knows it.

A junior away shirt on MFC Direct is more expensive than an Adult one. It's just that for the adult one they charge VAT.

**** em.
 
Norfolkred1 said:
We have fans World wide who demand to wear shirts to follow their team. The Clubs seems to want to keep it local for local fans unless you buy on line from the Club which obviously incurs VAT for non EU customers, so I see why people go don the cheaper option.
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If you are outside the UK the delivery fees alone are more than buying the fake shirt plus delivery. £13.50 for Europe or £16 worldwide. £6 delivery in the UK is also shocking and it's not even next day, that'll cost you £8 and no matter how much you spend it is never free. They are even profiteering off delivery because I know a small package costs £3 to deliver and I'd be expecting a retail business will benefit from economies of scale.

I said on the other thread about Boro being taken over that Gibson has made decision after decision to shrink the fanbase instead of growing it and this is a perfect example of that. We do have fans world wide but I bet they are all from Teesside originally. He has done nothing to expand our fanbase. We had top international players, we were playing in Europe and you could still only buy our merchandise from the club directly. I've never met a Boro fan that wasn't originally from Teesside (or their family was at least). I have seen kids in Sports shops being allowed to just pick a kit from any team they like and they are never going to pick a Boro kit because it isn't there. Someone like Sports Direct probably wouldn't stock our kit these days around the country but that opportunity was there 20 years ago and Gibson took the decision that getting a couple of extra quid from each top was more important than increasing the number of fans. For someone who is supposed to be a successful businessman he gets fundamental decisions wrong all the time.
 
Nano said:
If you are outside the UK the delivery fees alone are more than buying the fake shirt plus delivery. £13.50 for Europe or £16 worldwide. £6 delivery in the UK is also shocking and it's not even next day, that'll cost you £8 and no matter how much you spend it is never free. They are even profiteering off delivery because I know a small package costs £3 to deliver and I'd be expecting a retail business will benefit from economies of scale.

I said on the other thread about Boro being taken over that Gibson has made decision after decision to shrink the fanbase instead of growing it and this is a perfect example of that. We do have fans world wide but I bet they are all from Teesside originally. He has done nothing to expand our fanbase. We had top international players, we were playing in Europe and you could still only buy our merchandise from the club directly. I've never met a Boro fan that wasn't originally from Teesside (or their family was at least). I have seen kids in Sports shops being allowed to just pick a kit from any team they like and they are never going to pick a Boro kit because it isn't there. Someone like Sports Direct probably wouldn't stock our kit these days around the country but that opportunity was there 20 years ago and Gibson took the decision that getting a couple of extra quid from each top was more important than increasing the number of fans. For someone who is supposed to be a successful businessman he gets fundamental decisions wrong all the time.
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He is incredibly short sighted. I suspect he thinks most Boro fans (aside from ST holders) are fickle idiots not worth bothering with. Rather than try and entice them to games he'd rather just not bother.

Didn't we have a new head of ticket office a few years ago who basically quit because every idea he came up with to increase attendances was vetoed?

Kids shirts should be cheap. Very cheap. They're the fans of tomorrow and as daft as it sounds many people have picked what team they support based on what shirt they had as a kid. Many kids will care as much about the shirt as watching games. They then emulate their favourite players playing with their mates, become Boro mad and end up wasting thousands on the club when they become adults.

Making it easy for families to get hold of and afford kids shirts should be a no brainer. It's an investment for the future.

But Gibson doesn't really seem to give a **** about any of that. In fact he seems to think the other way around. If fans really care (like he does, because we're all multi millionaires with loads of disposable income) they'll happily pay for the privilege. And are presumably not worth bothering with if they won't.
 
They won't be made in the same factory, even if they were made in the same country. I've dealt with a lot of Chinese factories, it's a massive industry and the idea that a factory would just kick out extra stock for other websites is daft, they'd lose their contract in a heartbeat.

People say the same about off brand supermarket products but it's rare it actually happens - what usually happens is a firm may make products for a supermarket brand but will use completely different recipe and ingredients but the same manufacturing process, which is why they taste competently different despite some people claiming Tesco beans taste the same as Heinz, when they absolutely don't unless you've lost your sense of taste.

But they don't need to, numerous factories will reverse engineer ant products and some will be better than others. You still get ones with spelling mistakes in the product or use old versions etc but the good ones are very good at what they do.
 
ThatFragranceGuy said:
They won't be made in the same factory, even if they were made in the same country. I've dealt with a lot of Chinese factories, it's a massive industry and the idea that a factory would just kick out extra stock for other websites is daft, they'd lose their contract in a heartbeat.

People say the same about off brand supermarket products but it's rare it actually happens - what usually happens is a firm may make products for a supermarket brand but will use completely different recipe and ingredients but the same manufacturing process, which is why they taste competently different despite some people claiming Tesco beans taste the same as Heinz, when they absolutely don't unless you've lost your sense of taste.

But they don't need to, numerous factories will reverse engineer ant products and some will be better than others. You still get ones with spelling mistakes in the product or use old versions etc but the good ones are very good at what they do.
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I think the reverse engineering point is the main one.

When I worked at a previous company we also dealt with a lot of Chinese factories and often the starting point was sending them an image of something that already exists.

If I bought a Boro shirt and sent it to an agent in China (or other SE Asian country) I could probably get production started in a few weeks if I was really serious.

As for the food in supermarkets, I agree but there are exceptions. If you buy Sainsbury Jaffa Cakes they are exactly the same as the McVities. There's been a lot of skimpflation this year as companies try and keep costs down. I won't name names but when you see the percentage of ingredients change identically across both branded and own brand supermarket products then it's pretty obvious what is happening.

As with most things, the marketing bods are way ahead of the general public. Worried about how much your activity affects the environment due to a personal carbon footprint? Don't worry too much about it; the oil companies came up with that term to deflect you from the harm they were doing. Do you make sure you always have a breakfast as it's the most important meal of the day? Dr Kellogg would definitely approve that you follow his advice.

Football is exactly the same. They constantly play us to try and extract more money from us and are basically affronted that other people would seek to do the same.
 
ThatFragranceGuy said:
They won't be made in the same factory, even if they were made in the same country. I've dealt with a lot of Chinese factories, it's a massive industry and the idea that a factory would just kick out extra stock for other websites is daft, they'd lose their contract in a heartbeat.

People say the same about off brand supermarket products but it's rare it actually happens - what usually happens is a firm may make products for a supermarket brand but will use completely different recipe and ingredients but the same manufacturing process, which is why they taste competently different despite some people claiming Tesco beans taste the same as Heinz, when they absolutely don't unless you've lost your sense of taste.

But they don't need to, numerous factories will reverse engineer ant products and some will be better than others. You still get ones with spelling mistakes in the product or use old versions etc but the good ones are very good at what they do.
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As is the case with football shirts, the cheaper beans are often better than Heinz.

Don't be fooled by television adverts.
 
Not that I necessarily buy into this but isn't part of the argument for shirts etc. being more expensive than non-branded items of the same quality to put some additional £ towards the club and support them? Appreciate this is more of an argument for teams lower down the pyramid.
 
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