Do you class yourself as an animal lover ?

Centralscrutinizer said:
There's 2 types of animals. The ones I like eating e.g chickens and the ones I like stroking e.g cute kittens. Lambs are a confusing outlier in this system, I love to see them in the country but they're bloody lovely with a bit of gravy and mint sauce.
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Not a fan of the chicken to eat and they are quite cute. Recently I have been trying to eat animals that you get a lot of meals from. More deaths per meal with a chicken that, say, a cow. Fish n chips though, that is a lot of deaths per meal but I do love fish n chips.
 
Centralscrutinizer said:
There's 2 types of animals. The ones I like eating e.g chickens and the ones I like stroking e.g cute kittens. Lambs are a confusing outlier in this system, I love to see them in the country but they're bloody lovely with a bit of gravy and mint sauce.
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Goats make good pets I understand but they serve goat curry at Turtle Bay in town.
 
Does an animal lover have to love all animals? Of course not. It is an oft misused phrase

I love any animals that I form a bond with, for example I have loved 3 dogs, 1 cat, 2 goldfish a rabbit and a hamster over the years. Do I love my neighbours dog, no I don’t, would I harm it, no I wouldn’t. I like some animals and would never harm one intentionally, but love is a special bond spent over time building relationships together.

I would not take responsibility for an animal unless I was prepared to nsure we could in some way socialise or I could ensure I was prepared to look after it as far as possible. The form of pet I struggle with are caged animals like hamsters, mice, snakes etc. i am not sure that is fair to them having had responsibility for looking after them.

Do I eat animals, well I eat meat, so yes. You can’t love or form a bond with someone or something you have never met. I show love to any living creature bar flies and wasps and anything capable of killing me like funnel web spiders, brown snakes etc. I could never chose a lobster from a tank or a goose in a field or a pig in a sty and have someone prepare it for me to eat, My conscience would not allow that, but i do love a sirloin steak, lambs leg or pork loin and some succulent chicken breasts for example. I would never kill an animal out of personal choice, but i do eat them where others have.

Do i consider myself a hypocrite? No I don’t, some might, but i do know everyone reading this has personal skeletons in their cupboards bursting to fall out. As rightly said, social conditioning, personal survival, tastes, traditions, dislike of substitutes etc all come into play. One thing people do forget is that if humans did not eat meat, many animals would never experience any life whatsoever. Would you prefer to have lived and loved and been looked after for a third of your life and be culled without knowledge or never to have been born at all? We all die at some point, many don’t last a lifetime, through accident, human tragedy, illness, harm from others etc etc. So long as it is legal, live your life as you wish and respect the thoughts and wishes of others, every living soul has a place in mother earths food chain, even humans get killed and eaten too and we don’t always have a say.
 
Cardiffdaffs said:
More people going to supermarkets than butchers possibly. And the family Butcher in Market square Thirsk is having a record year.
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Yes and I’m not really somebody who compares prices so maybe that is a factor as well, as you say maybe the likes of Aldi mopping up more business.
 
Centralscrutinizer said:
There's 2 types of animals. The ones I like eating e.g chickens and the ones I like stroking e.g cute kittens. Lambs are a confusing outlier in this system, I love to see them in the country but they're bloody lovely with a bit of gravy and mint sauce.
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Hmmmm…..should you be barred from the site for being so honest about eating cuter than cute lambs (?) because once you’ve finished stroking them……. and worked up a big appetite you nourish yourself with their bodies (& some mint sauce) 🤔
 
Four dogs, four horses, two goats, four geese and three ducks so yes, I’d say I am an animal lover but eat plenty of meat and don’t see the hypocrisy in it.
Just how many pigs, sheep, cows, chickens etc do you think there’d be in the world today if we didn’t eat them? They’d have disappeared centuries ago
 
Greaseman said:
So if you eat meat, it means you hate animals ?

Even weirder. Or are you all vegetarian
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Train Man said:
Four dogs, four horses, two goats, four geese and three ducks so yes, I’d say I am an animal lover but eat plenty of meat and don’t see the hypocrisy in it.
Just how many pigs, sheep, cows, chickens etc do you think there’d be in the world today if we didn’t eat them? They’d have disappeared centuries ago
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That’s right. Let’s just keep rearing stuff for slaughter, because otherwise they wouldn’t exist.
 
coluka said:
Does an animal lover have to love all animals? Of course not. It is an oft misused phrase

I love any animals that I form a bond with, for example I have loved 3 dogs, 1 cat, 2 goldfish a rabbit and a hamster over the years. Do I love my neighbours dog, no I don’t, would I harm it, no I wouldn’t. I like some animals and would never harm one intentionally, but love is a special bond spent over time building relationships together.

I would not take responsibility for an animal unless I was prepared to nsure we could in some way socialise or I could ensure I was prepared to look after it as far as possible. The form of pet I struggle with are caged animals like hamsters, mice, snakes etc. i am not sure that is fair to them having had responsibility for looking after them.

Do I eat animals, well I eat meat, so yes. You can’t love or form a bond with someone or something you have never met. I show love to any living creature bar flies and wasps and anything capable of killing me like funnel web spiders, brown snakes etc. I could never chose a lobster from a tank or a goose in a field or a pig in a sty and have someone prepare it for me to eat, My conscience would not allow that, but i do love a sirloin steak, lambs leg or pork loin and some succulent chicken breasts for example. I would never kill an animal out of personal choice, but i do eat them where others have.

Do i consider myself a hypocrite? No I don’t, some might, but i do know everyone reading this has personal skeletons in their cupboards bursting to fall out. As rightly said, social conditioning, personal survival, tastes, traditions, dislike of substitutes etc all come into play. One thing people do forget is that if humans did not eat meat, many animals would never experience any life whatsoever. Would you prefer to have lived and loved and been looked after for a third of your life and be culled without knowledge or never to have been born at all? We all die at some point, many don’t last a lifetime, through accident, human tragedy, illness, harm from others etc etc. So long as it is legal, live your life as you wish and respect the thoughts and wishes of others, every living soul has a place in mother earths food chain, even humans get killed and eaten too and we don’t always have a say.
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Do i consider myself a hypocrite? No I don’t, some might, but i do know everyone reading this has personal skeletons in their cupboards bursting to fall out.

Justifying eating meat because ‘others’ have ‘skeletons’
Ha.
Hilarious.

We have our first GRADE ONE hypocrite.
Congratulations. Not only that but loves the sight of his own words….(probably his own voice)
I don’t mean to cause any offence but equally don’t want to create any ambiguity.
 
Train Man said:
Four dogs, four horses, two goats, four geese and three ducks so yes, I’d say I am an animal lover but eat plenty of meat and don’t see the hypocrisy in it.
Just how many pigs, sheep, cows, chickens etc do you think there’d be in the world today if we didn’t eat them? They’d have disappeared centuries ago
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We intentionally breed them to eat them. Which planet earth have you been living on ? 🤷‍♂️
 
coluka said:
Does an animal lover have to love all animals? Of course not. It is an oft misused phrase

I love any animals that I form a bond with, for example I have loved 3 dogs, 1 cat, 2 goldfish a rabbit and a hamster over the years. Do I love my neighbours dog, no I don’t, would I harm it, no I wouldn’t. I like some animals and would never harm one intentionally, but love is a special bond spent over time building relationships together.

I would not take responsibility for an animal unless I was prepared to nsure we could in some way socialise or I could ensure I was prepared to look after it as far as possible. The form of pet I struggle with are caged animals like hamsters, mice, snakes etc. i am not sure that is fair to them having had responsibility for looking after them.

Do I eat animals, well I eat meat, so yes. You can’t love or form a bond with someone or something you have never met. I show love to any living creature bar flies and wasps and anything capable of killing me like funnel web spiders, brown snakes etc. I could never chose a lobster from a tank or a goose in a field or a pig in a sty and have someone prepare it for me to eat, My conscience would not allow that, but i do love a sirloin steak, lambs leg or pork loin and some succulent chicken breasts for example. I would never kill an animal out of personal choice, but i do eat them where others have.

Do i consider myself a hypocrite? No I don’t, some might, but i do know everyone reading this has personal skeletons in their cupboards bursting to fall out. As rightly said, social conditioning, personal survival, tastes, traditions, dislike of substitutes etc all come into play. One thing people do forget is that if humans did not eat meat, many animals would never experience any life whatsoever. Would you prefer to have lived and loved and been looked after for a third of your life and be culled without knowledge or never to have been born at all? We all die at some point, many don’t last a lifetime, through accident, human tragedy, illness, harm from others etc etc. So long as it is legal, live your life as you wish and respect the thoughts and wishes of others, every living soul has a place in mother earths food chain, even humans get killed and eaten too and we don’t always have a say.
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A rather bizarre adaptation of the reductio argument Coluka, almost all of which I disagree with. However, that aside, please don’t harm wasps! They are incredibly important pollinators; like bees, but without the patience.
 
Train Man said:
That’s exactly what I was saying you doyle
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Your second paragraph attempted a justification for the continued slaughter. EFL quite correct to highlight this. Unless this was an attempted joke? In which case use the appropriate emoji, which is the accepted nomenclature of the board.
 
If you’re vegetarian because of conscience and you don’t believe we should eat animals then you really should go all the way and become vegan and stop wearing clothes, shoes etc, and buying products made from animals. That’s real dedication to a held conviction.

This isn’t meant to be provocative by the way. Just an observation by extension of the thought. Each to their own.
 
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