Norfolkred1
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Only 1 player talks to the Ref and that's the captain, he then deals with it accordingly.
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Just as I was replying.its honestly time football took a leaf out of how referees are treated in Rugby union.
Only the captains are allowed to talk to the officials, and any aggression or lip is rewarded instantly with a yellow car and 10 mins in the sin bin or a penalty awarded.
Could easily be fixed inside a couple of weeks if the footballing bodies wanted to, but they dont.
But it's not towards a player it's towards a ref. Players are allowed physical contact with each other and violent conduct will always happen. Its not the same for a referee and even worse now that var is involved. It's inexcusable (and that's coming from someone with similar anger/impulse control issues as mitro).Its a straight red card and he should get the usual ban. It wasn't excessively violent to trigger anything more than 3 games for violent conduct (because he pushed the ref vs 2 games for "dissent") IMHO.
The blame lies with the player. The referee doesn’t need to tell the players beforehand that assaulting him will be deemed unacceptable.Where does the blame lie. Is it the Ref or the FA who will not let the Ref into the dressing room to lay the law down on what will and will not happen on the pitch. All around the Rugby Dressing rooms are picture on what Ban YOU WILL GET if you carry out certain actions. None of this board meeting crap, a straight ban without a hearing simple as that. Then the Axminister shuffle in front of the manager to deal out their punishment. And as for the coach, well where does the attitude come down from. TBF I've not really seen MC loose his rag yet.
When I played local league football if you swore at a team mate never mind the referee you were sent off. This never happens in pro football and they play to slightly different rules regarding player conduct.Football will never get its house in order regarding dissent and referees.
In sport you push the rules as far as you can. In football you swear at the ref, crowd him and shout and you get the next decision. In rugby/ hockey you do that and you're off the pitch for 10 minutes.
It could be stopped within a few months.
Reminds me a bit of people trafficing. If there was a real will/ it was drugs/ guns it would be stopped within days.
9 games would mean he could play their last game this season.. at old trafford.Think he will get 10 games
respect for referees at the grassroots level is very poor, but is mitrovic the one to hang all that onto.. is this when the penny drops. for me I’m more than happy to see a 10 game match ban dropped it we are entering into a new age of respect and with that I would like to see some consistency and a genuine effort made to raise standards.Should be,
The referee should be sacrosanct. They don’t get decisions wrong on purpose, they are human and make mistakes in exactly the same way as players and managers do.
Making excuses for this type of behaviour, that spills down into grassroots and your football is a massive part of the problem. Telling the official to “**** off”, screaming for penalties/fouls, running at the referee when one of your team mates is fouled, dishonesty when appealing for throws Etc
Will to win, competitiveness, desire, pressure to succeed. All pathetic excuses, none of them are acceptable, the authorities need to crack down and stop it whilst fans/pundits/managers/media need to call it out for what it is,
No but gobbing off aggressively about 2cm from his face, grabbing him, refusing to go away, repeating the gobbing off is ..... and that will be watched and followed by kids. You may not like it or agree but these players do have a responsibility to be a role model for kidsa tug on the arm and a waggy finger isn’t going down as extremely violent conduct is it?
Yeah, but if that happens after the card has been given.. you’ve lost control of the situation.No but gobbing off aggressively about 2cm from his face, grabbing him, refusing to go away, repeating the gobbing off is ..... and that will be watched and followed by kids. You may not like it or agree but these players do have a responsibility to be a role model for kids
I blame kn0b Ferguson for this - the agrgession that Keane and the like showed to referees was a deliberate ploy by him and as it was never clamped down on at the start, it's now seen as normal behaviour
I think it is that bad. The arm grab alone isn't too bad but putting his face in the refs face like that, is extremely aggressive. If someone does that to you in the pub most would probably think "here we go, this fella wants a fight". He forced the ref to back away from him.I don't think the incident was that bad on the face of it, but it's what it represents that's the problem.
Complete lack of respect towards the referee from Mitrovic.
I'd throw the book at him to discourage other players from acting like that.