BlindBoyGrunt
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We didn't exactly welcome them with open arms either.See how the Jews fled Germany in the 30s and 40s to other parts of Europe and the United States.
We didn't exactly welcome them with open arms either.See how the Jews fled Germany in the 30s and 40s to other parts of Europe and the United States.
Great post CBSome of the views in this thread are beyond abhorrent .
We as a nation have massively contributed to the destabilisation of countries and entire regions. Due to this, humanitarian disasters have followed, leading to poor innocent families risking everything to flee their country.
Many want to come here because they speak our language or simply because it is safe.
For the good our country has done, we also have to accept the bad and with that, the consequenses, not just sit on our little island in blind ignorance declaring "we are full" while selling arms to questionable nations who are dropping bombs on civilians with made in Britain on the tip.
By the way the 1951 Refugee Convention, UNHCR, EU or any other law pertaining to resettlement of refugees states they need to settle in the first safe country, it’s a myth that’s been put about by people who would like to defer the problem to someone else.
Post of the day.Brexit was allowed to be hijacked by Farage, Johnson , Gove etc. who used it quite deliberately to make ‘mild racism’ acceptable. There is of course no such thing as ‘mild racism’, a racist is a racist full stop but Farage skilfully ignited a spark that had been smouldering in the sub culture of places like the North East for years. A sub culture that Foreigners add no value to GB, they take our jobs, they attack our women and children, they all get big houses and incredible hand outs. The truth is, as was proven in the Brexit debate, immigration actually adds value to the economy but nobody was listening as Farage found fertile ground for his seeds. Immigration is now a polarised almost dirty subject in this country as Brexit emboldened and gave a collective voice and cause to jingoistic xenophobia. The popular press like the Sun, Mail etc. fan the flames every day and encourage those who have said the repugnant things they have on here to do so. We need to be far more worried however of the tens of thousands in the North East who would absolutely applaud and champion the views expressed to sink the boats trying to cross the channel as our country continues to descend into a nation of have’s and have not’s and loses its compassion and hope to create a fair and just society. How you treat people in most need defines you as an individual and a nation. I find the debate in this country all very sad.
Brexit was allowed to be hijacked by Farage, Johnson , Gove etc. who used it quite deliberately to make ‘mild racism’ acceptable. There is of course no such thing as ‘mild racism’, a racist is a racist full stop but Farage skilfully ignited a spark that had been smouldering in the sub culture of places like the North East for years. A sub culture that Foreigners add no value to GB, they take our jobs, they attack our women and children, they all get big houses and incredible hand outs. The truth is, as was proven in the Brexit debate, immigration actually adds value to the economy but nobody was listening as Farage found fertile ground for his seeds. Immigration is now a polarised almost dirty subject in this country as Brexit emboldened and gave a collective voice and cause to jingoistic xenophobia. The popular press like the Sun, Mail etc. fan the flames every day and encourage those who have said the repugnant things they have on here to do so. We need to be far more worried however of the tens of thousands in the North East who would absolutely applaud and champion the views expressed to sink the boats trying to cross the channel as our country continues to descend into a nation of have’s and have not’s and loses its compassion and hope to create a fair and just society. How you treat people in most need defines you as an individual and a nation. I find the debate in this country all very sad.
Brexit was allowed to be hijacked by Farage, Johnson , Gove etc. who used it quite deliberately to make ‘mild racism’ acceptable. There is of course no such thing as ‘mild racism’, a racist is a racist full stop but Farage skilfully ignited a spark that had been smouldering in the sub culture of places like the North East for years. A sub culture that Foreigners add no value to GB, they take our jobs, they attack our women and children, they all get big houses and incredible hand outs. The truth is, as was proven in the Brexit debate, immigration actually adds value to the economy but nobody was listening as Farage found fertile ground for his seeds. Immigration is now a polarised almost dirty subject in this country as Brexit emboldened and gave a collective voice and cause to jingoistic xenophobia. The popular press like the Sun, Mail etc. fan the flames every day and encourage those who have said the repugnant things they have on here to do so. We need to be far more worried however of the tens of thousands in the North East who would absolutely applaud and champion the views expressed to sink the boats trying to cross the channel as our country continues to descend into a nation of have’s and have not’s and loses its compassion and hope to create a fair and just society. How you treat people in most need defines you as an individual and a nation. I find the debate in this country all very sad.
Given the fact that immigration has proven to be economically positive for the UK, why be against it?Immigration is now a polarised almost dirty subject in this country
It is on this board. Apparently they can smell you if you hold any view that immigration should be more tightly controlled.
That’s why the debate falls down. If you don’t let them all in then your racist. The left is as bad as the right for fanning the flames
See my explanation of Singapore. Which some brexiters seem to think we can achieve .Given the fact that immigration has proven to be economically positive for the UK, why be against it?
As a father that photo of the lad is heartbreaking. But as a father I would never put my son in that position or risk his life for economic gain. That’s obviously not the channel but those that are crossing the channel are economic migrants and not fleeing persecution. We can’t even house and feed the homeless already let alone with the recession that’s coming this way.
It isn't so much left and right as compassion or lack of.Immigration is now a polarised almost dirty subject in this country
It is on this board. Apparently they can smell you if you hold any view that immigration should be more tightly controlled.
That’s why the debate falls down. If you don’t let them all in then your racist. The left is as bad as the right for fanning the flames
Often the same thing...It isn't so much left and right as compassion or lack of.
It isn't so much left and right as compassion or lack of.