Would you consider moving to an Independent Scotland?
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Pog
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But that’s the problem.
They didn’t elect Johnson, not even close. they’re stuck with him.
They haven’t elected a Tory government in the last decade, yet they’ve had one.
The Westminster system isn’t working for them.
InglebyUTB
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xxlshirts_fit_all
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the problem we have in england is again the little englander who thinks we would be better off without scotland "draining" our resources...
Its up to the people of Scotland how they vote, but personally having lived in both countries I think we are equally better off together...
Its up to the people of Scotland how they vote, but personally having lived in both countries I think we are equally better off together...
ForssAwakens
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only 40% of the country voted him. Should all seats who don’t have a Tory go independent because that seat didn’t vote for him?
We should be talking about a proportional representation, the snp would likely be In Coalition and Scotland would have a fair say in what happens
the Westminster system is outdated it isn’t working for Scots and it isn’t working for 90% of England
Muttley
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Personally, I think the North of England should go with them. Secede from the United Kingdom and become "North Britain". I have more in common politically and culturally with Glaswegians than Londoners.
I believe my Grandfather was born in Scotland, perhaps I'll be able to get a tartan passport?
I believe my Grandfather was born in Scotland, perhaps I'll be able to get a tartan passport?
I know this one. They're all in the last two Labour manifestos. Sadly most English people don't want extra bank holidays, or to remove tuition fees. That's democracy I guess.
Pog
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Ah but voting for free anything is communism, who will pay for it, why should I pay for other people’s prescriptions, etc, etc.
Pog
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Personally I would seriously consider it.
Becoming increasingly fed up of the Little Englander race to the bottom attitude in this country. The constant voting for policies to make this country and the lives of the people in it a worse place.
Don’t get me wrong the Scots aren’t perfect. Having lived there 2012/13 I just found it to be a country that votes for policies which actually benefit the majority of the population and they actually give a s*** about each other, the environment, etc.
I have more in common with them than I do most of England.
I was delighted they stayed in the union, but honestly wouldn’t blame them if they decided to unshackle themselves from this English Tory death cult and try their luck as an independent country.
Becoming increasingly fed up of the Little Englander race to the bottom attitude in this country. The constant voting for policies to make this country and the lives of the people in it a worse place.
Don’t get me wrong the Scots aren’t perfect. Having lived there 2012/13 I just found it to be a country that votes for policies which actually benefit the majority of the population and they actually give a s*** about each other, the environment, etc.
I have more in common with them than I do most of England.
I was delighted they stayed in the union, but honestly wouldn’t blame them if they decided to unshackle themselves from this English Tory death cult and try their luck as an independent country.
WoodallServices
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I wouldn’t be surprised if one of the main reasons more people are for independence is love her or hate her Nicola Sturgeon has proved to be a country mile more statesman like than Johnson and the rest of the inept shower in London.
indeedido
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If the EU are insistent on enforcing their rules with non member countries on the same island, then Scotland would not actually vote for independence when they realise what it would mean.
When they realise they can't cover their share of national debt and can't afford the welfare nation they want, then they won't vote for independence.
When they realise they have done very well with share of voice and share of funding, they won't vote for independence.
The Scots want their cake and eat it. When they really have to choose, head will win.
They should have the right to choose - no more or less than Wales and Northern Ireland - but they should have the right.
I hope the don't and don't think they will.
But I would always very much rather be on this side of the border.
Scotland is nice to visit, but nicer to come home from.
When they realise they can't cover their share of national debt and can't afford the welfare nation they want, then they won't vote for independence.
When they realise they have done very well with share of voice and share of funding, they won't vote for independence.
The Scots want their cake and eat it. When they really have to choose, head will win.
They should have the right to choose - no more or less than Wales and Northern Ireland - but they should have the right.
I hope the don't and don't think they will.
But I would always very much rather be on this side of the border.
Scotland is nice to visit, but nicer to come home from.
Muttley
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Scotland is a net contributor to the UK economy and has been for some years. As oil revenue falls less so but currently they contribute more than they receive.
xxlshirts_fit_all
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oh dear.... this type of response is the biggest problem the english have...
Tees_In_The_USA
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My wife is from Edinburgh so I suppose I have that in the bank if I ever need it, I can see them getting their independence not sure if it's such a good thing though.
Redinburgh
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dan_ashcroft
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Today at 8:37 AM
#18
Scotland would be just a bit too far to travel down for home games, and would rule out going to away games really.
Having lived here for 19 years, I have managed to keep my season ticket and make most home games and quite a few away ones over the years. It can be a nice little jolly for the home games. Flying to some away games was a bit of a treat.
As for Independence I would still vote no, in 2014 it was a once in a generation vote, not if we don’t like what happens we can try again.
Scotland has its problems and positives, it has plenty of little ‘Scotlanders’ to match the little ‘Englanders’, there is plenty of poverty, ill health creating a burden on the NHS to go along with the positives mentioned earlier.
I do enjoy living here but expect I will eventually move back to Teesside/North Yorkshire
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Today at 8:37 AM
#18
Scotland would be just a bit too far to travel down for home games, and would rule out going to away games really.
Having lived here for 19 years, I have managed to keep my season ticket and make most home games and quite a few away ones over the years. It can be a nice little jolly for the home games. Flying to some away games was a bit of a treat.
As for Independence I would still vote no, in 2014 it was a once in a generation vote, not if we don’t like what happens we can try again.
Scotland has its problems and positives, it has plenty of little ‘Scotlanders’ to match the little ‘Englanders’, there is plenty of poverty, ill health creating a burden on the NHS to go along with the positives mentioned earlier.
I do enjoy living here but expect I will eventually move back to Teesside/North Yorkshire
Think that's the other way round tbh. Most of London has more in common politically with Scotland than the North East does.
Tees_In_The_USA
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I quite like my once yearly couple of weeks in Edinburgh to see the in laws, probably my favourite city to visit in the UK but you are totally correct in what you say, my wifes family didn't want independence and they still don't but you see a lot of YES car stickers don't you.
FartingGnome
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My dad was a Scot, his mother was a Hebridean Gaelic speaker, I went to a Scottish University as did 2 of my 3 offsprogs. Wouldn't have any problem living there and in lots of ways would probably prefer it, - the places I've lived in and visited (a lot of it) tend to have been the nice bits. A bit late in the day for me to be upping sticks now, other than education I've lived in Billingham all my life. Loathe and despise our current government and if the Scots go we're stuck with this garbage for the foreseeable future. Which is an issue.
Anton_Berg
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Is there enough room in Scotland to accomodate all the English and Welsh remainers, alongside all the English who already live there (quite a few)? And how would they be received?
