Will the ban on the sale of petrol/diesel cars happen in 7 years?

[Facefuzz]

Will it? Or will it be pushed back?
I can’t see how we will have the infrastructure in place by then, enough cars being made by then or if they will have brought costs down to an affordable level by then.
I don’t have an electric car not never looked at buying an electric car. They’re out of my budget.
Be interesting to see what happens

 

[RedAsABeetroot]

I'd be inclined to agree that it looks unlikely at the moment. It feels like we need a fundamental change for this to happen but public transport outside of major cities isn't good enough.

 

[Centralscrutinizer]

No chance. The whole time frame was pie in the sky.

 

[Acklam_Lad]

It’s just a ban on new cars isn’t it?

By which time the answer is yes I’m sure it will happen as all the major manufacturers will have switched by this point. Most will have changed before this date

 

[Expat Smoggie]

I doubt it also. California says it’ll take another 10 years to build out its infrastructure, Elsewhere, despite there being a political push for everything EV, I can’t see how low income or even mid income families are able to afford or transition to an EV, unless you drop your car for an electric bike.

 

[afcb_acklam]

just give everyone electric scooters - sorted

 

[ThePrisoner]

It’s just a ban on new cars isn’t it?

By which time the answer is yes I’m sure it will happen as all the major manufacturers will have switched by this point. Most will have changed before this date

Yes they probably will have by then but will the infrastructure be there as well? I very much doubt it. If you haven't noticed, this country can no longer build anything more complicated than a garden shed, so good luck with installing millions of chargers and the juice for them.

 

[BoroFur]

Not a chance, not in the UK anyway. There's 35 battery plants under construction in Europe but hardly any here. Even the price of a hybrid is prohibitive. At my work, if the boss has to do any serious mileage he ditches his electric car and hires a petrol one. Ridiculous.

 

[Northerner]

The infrastructure just won't be there to support more electric cars in time.
Talking to a guy in the queue for charging point at Wetherby services between Christmas and New Year said he estimated about a 2 hour wait before he could even start charging.
Things have rapidly got to improve, but can't see it happening.

 

[Acklam_Lad]

The infrastructure just won't be there to support more electric cars in time.
Talking to a guy in the queue for charging point at Wetherby services between Christmas and New Year said he estimated about a 2 hour wait before he could even start charging.
Things have rapidly got to improve, but can't see it happening.

Funny you should say that… my dad stopped there on the 2nd of Jan and plugged into a 100kw charger and was barely getting 35 out of it.

There was only three cars there. I think it must be faulty

 

[Greaseman]

The industry has not settled on what method will replace the combustion engine yet. Not even close.

 

[BoroMart]

No it'll get pushed back 5 years but with a levy on new petrol cars. Remember it's not a ban owning a petrol car they are looking for, it's banning the sale of new petrol cars. There will still be old petrol cars for 30 years beyond the cut off date, whenever that is.

 

[Blf]

Not a chance. Someone who works for the national grid told me something the other day. I didn't really believe him so I spoke to someone who's a manager at a power station who confirmed it.
I was told that if just 9 houses on every housing estate in the Nort East switched to home charging units they would not be able to cope with the extra power needed without major change
As I say I thought it was a bit of billy bulls##t until someone else confirmed it.

 

[asredastheycome]

Not a chance. Someone who works for the national grid told me something the other day. I didn't really believe him so I spoke to someone who's a manager at a power station who confirmed it.
I was told that if just 9 houses on every housing estate in the Nort East switched to home charging units they would not be able to cope with the extra power needed without major change
As I say I thought it was a bit of billy bulls##t until someone else confirmed it.

Surprised........................not in the least.

 

[JackG]

No it'll get pushed back 5 years but with a levy on new petrol cars. Remember it's not a ban owning a petrol car they are looking for, it's banning the sale of new petrol cars. There will still be old petrol cars for 30 years beyond the cut off date, whenever that is.

We will be like Cuba under the USA embargo, with everyone driving around in the UK 21C equivalent of 1950s Oldsmobiles.

 

[Redwurzel]

I expect they will ban petrol sales by 2040. I can see in 2035 petrol cars will be banned from urban areas.

The roads will be cleared of poor people in the interests of protecting the environment.

 

[SilentProf]

I think even the most pro EV person could see the date for the ban was a bit too ambitious. Covid, Brexit and the Ukraine situation have only made things worse.

I think we might see tax incentives to push sales through for new EV’s as we get closer to the deadline. That should help bring second hand EV’s down in price too.

If the charging infrastructure is as poor as some suggest, we might also see some requirements and incentives for solar or small scale wind power to be installed with battery storage to take up some of the additional load at least in new homes and commercial premises.

 

[Jonny Ingbar]

Absolutely no chance.

Many manufactures are nowhere near a full EV offering and we all know that business comes before the green agenda.

Take Jaguar Land Rover for instance, there's simply not a chance they will be even close to meeting this deadline. They (or rather Tata) don't have the technology to do it and given the huge losses they're posting the cash either.

For now it's and aspirational target, one which encourages people to go electric, and forces manufacturers to invest, but it'll be pushed back I'm sure.

 

[SmallTown]

I think people saying no chance would be surprised. EV sales are higher than expected. The grid can cope. They keep saying as such. The main problem is attitude 8t seems to me. From conversations I have people don't seem to understand EV and therefore try and resist it. Once people realise how easy it is to own an EV sales will snowball.

The other major problem of course are the huge oil companies. They will fight hard to resist it and they have deep pockets. There's so much misinformation spread about EV that is slowing things down.

As for manufacturers not being able to produce vehicles. It's an innovate or die time. Their are tonnes of Chinese manufacturers making EV. The US will resist hard. The Germans need to catch up and the Japanese need to quit trying to push failed tech like hydrogen

 

[SmallTown]

Funny you should say that… my dad stopped there on the 2nd of Jan and plugged into a 100kw charger and was barely getting 35 out of it.

There was only three cars there. I think it must be faulty

The two hour wait thing is Definitely a fault. No question. The 35 lWh thing though: what was his state of charge? All batteries taper off towards the top end of their state of charge