Wilders Watford Meltdown

He has got a point to be fair Watford are just a team of individuals one of the best squads in the championship should be top 3 but the players are really not up for it if I was a Watford fan I would be so pished off
 
Has anyone come across @louorns on twitter before? A Watford and EFL fan, and for someone who’s seems to think they know a lot about football, obsessing over stats etc he seems to be completely fooled by Wilder’s ‘honesty’.

It’s plain as day what he’s trying to do with these interviews. He doesn’t want to be there, it’s harming his precious CV.
 
He mentions the word "team" 43 times in that tirade 😂

Desperate stuff.

He knew what the job was going into it. He could have waited, probably got a mid to lower table championship club, had a full pre-season and as he claims to like doing (but only till something better comes along) "build a side".

But his ego couldn't resist the recent premier league club and it's fairly big name players. He probably still sees the likes of Luton or Coventry as beneath him.

No sympathy. But pretty funny.
 
billsykes said:
The hatred for Wilder aside, there is actually something in what he is alluding to.
I've never understood how the Watford model could yield long term success. He talks about 20 individuals and them not being a team, how could they be when they change managers so frequently, and presumably with each change comes a change of style, formation, tactics etc.
The players must get to the point where they don't give a stuff about what the manager is trying to achieve, they know he'll be gone soon and it will be all change.
I'm no Wilder fan, but there have been better managers than him sacked by Watford, some good Managers too, and with each sacking, being sacked by them becomes less relevant to a manager's CV.
No, Wilder is an irrelevance to me, it's the Watford ownership and the Watford model that I really dislike.
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I honestly thought when they got Rob Edwards it was going to be a big shift in their model and they'd give him a season and let him get his own team together, but no, they're a joke of a club and i honestly do not know why a British manager would touch them with a barge pole. Obviously money talks and if these lads are out of work, they might talk to the board and fall for their spiel, but seeing how many times now the club goes through multiple managers a season its mental. These 'known' British managers are doing their CV alot of harm, for a payday.

Must be truly awful for their fans, such a circus
 
TheYorkshireTerrier said:
Has anyone come across @louorns on twitter before? A Watford and EFL fan, and for someone who’s seems to think they know a lot about football, obsessing over stats etc he seems to be completely fooled by Wilder’s ‘honesty’.

It’s plain as day what he’s trying to do with these interviews. He doesn’t want to be there, it’s harming his precious CV.
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He was very much part of the Warnock out brigade before the season had even started. A huge fan of Chris Wilder.. and I couldn’t be happier for him!!
 
I wonder how many asterisks there are now on his cv. Yes but that was snd yes but that was etc

Middlesbrough *
Watford *
 
He's right that Watford don't play as a team, but it's his job to get them playing as a team.

That can be hard when they have a few players who probably think they should be playing in the prem mind, and some looked to have downed tools.

Sarr and Pedro should absolutely be bossing this league. Pedro absolutely destroyed us when we were up against him, but he now just does as he likes and doesn't seem to give a toss.

They don't seem to have a spine/ core, which might be down to them having so many foreigners, no doubt speaking a million different languages. It's probably difficult managing that, especially if you're used to dealing with rough and ready British players, which is certainly what he likes, he's obviously old school in that respect.

He was certainly the wrong manager for their squad mind, it was never going to work.
 
sherlock1969 said:
"The players aren't playing as a team!"

"So what are you going to do about that Chris?"

"Me? Why is it my responsibility? What do you think I am, the manager or something?!"

"Ummm....."
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He makes himself sound like he isn’t a part of what’s happening. The whole reason his teams stop playing as a team is because he throws them under a bus at the first sight of trouble. He won’t learn.
 
Diego said:
He makes himself sound like he isn’t a part of what’s happening. The whole reason his teams stop playing as a team is because he throws them under a bus at the first sight of trouble. He won’t learn.
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Except when things are going well, then he is the only reason for that. We are well shot of him.
 
"I’ve never stopped individuals doing creative aspects for the team at the top of the pitch. Our goal summed that up."
- Players being creative and it working - Wilder's genius.

"“Then all of a sudden everybody wants to flick it and do their own thing. People are playing out of position, hitting cross-field balls, and you lose your rhythm quickly."
- Players being creative and it not working - Player's fault.
 
Diego said:
He makes himself sound like he isn’t a part of what’s happening. The whole reason his teams stop playing as a team is because he throws them under a bus at the first sight of trouble. He won’t learn.
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Exactly.

There's a bizarre part in that rant where he moans that they all start playing out of position and that it keeps happening.

Well that's part and parcel of management isn't it? You're either not getting your message across well enough or players are deliberately ignoring you. If it's the latter you have to drop them then surely?

For a top top manager who once had a chat with Klopp and has an outstanding CV, that sort of thing should be bread and butter shouldn't it?

Not sure he realises that rather than being a credible defence, it just makes him sound weak and clueless.
 
festa5 said:
Exactly.

There's a bizarre part in that rant where he moans that they all start playing out of position and that it keeps happening.

Well that's part and parcel of management isn't it? You're either not getting your message across well enough or players are deliberately ignoring you. If it's the latter you have to drop them then surely?

For a top top manager who once had a chat with Klopp and has an outstanding CV, that sort of thing should be bread and butter shouldn't it?

Not sure he realises that rather than being a credible defence, it just makes him sound weak and clueless.
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Mention of the CV gets me everytime
 
He reminds me of someone who keeps picking the same time and tactics in Football Manager, even when it's not working, and wondering why they aren't top of the league.
 
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