Wilder Putting Himself out there again

I'd given him the benefit of the doubt up until this point. I'd hoped he'd come out and say yeah I really messed up, I was arrogant and I admit that I was tempted by the Burnley job however the experience has humbled me and I aim to learn from it, which hopefully will help me to become a better manager in the future.
Aye, practically the only mistake he admitted to was not quashing the Burnley speculation.

Tbf when he's looking for work he'd never come out with that lot you've put up there. 'Really messed up' and 'arrogant' certainly wouldn't appear in his interview.

But even if he'd said something along the lines of "The Burnley speculation probably didn't help and I should have came out and squashed it, I realise that." as he did, but followed by something more like "This season we hadn't had the summer transfer window go as well as we'd like which frustrated me and we were undone through a combination of bad luck and yes, I made mistakes probably in part down to that frustration," it would have been much more humble and at least a part-truth, if far from the whole lot.

And he should forget the part completely about leaving the team in a good place for Carrick. 22nd is not a good place as said above and he freely admits that the transfer window wasn't ideal either, so which is it to be? Saying ballhooks like that merely invites more comparison and when not only Carrick, but Leo in his short spell have outperformed him this season then it's a comparison that really doesn't show him favourably at all.

Aside from whole Burnley debacle AND his insistence to stick to a formation that didn't suit the players, perhaps one of his biggest flaws was forgetting the depth of the squad. Someone correct me if I'm wrong without checking, but it seems that every lineup he put out this season just involved our existing first 11 plus his signings which he claimed hadn't gone as he'd liked. No promotion from the youth set up or reserves, no drafting in of forgotten men who'd been injured, players returning from loans etc, Akpom only starting because he had b***r all else to choose from.
 
The Photo at the top just needs the quote underneath "I'm a friend first, boss second... probably entertainer third"
For some reason (despite the different hairstyle) the lighting, his chosen clothing and look on his face put me in mind of this guy?
Probably equally as genuine amd professional in their respective careers recently tbh.
 

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Totally agree, I have mentioned it before but Alan McInally more or less called Wilder out with what Carrick is achieving with the same group of players. McInally was a pundit on Sky and praised our style of play and what Carrick had achieved and questioned why Wilder couldn't get a tune out of them. McInally more or less said our performances under Carrick were night and day compared to Wilder's.

What I find frightening about the whole thing, the players performing in Carrick's team would have been allowed to leave for peanuts if Wilder was still in charge.

People make mistakes in jobs and hindsight is a wonderful thing, but Chris Wilder is a fraud and any chairman worth his salt would look at Middlesbrough and ask himself the question, 'is he really our man.'
I honestly think that interview will put more clubs off him than repairing the damage to his reputation.

If he'd shown a bit of humility, admitted he'd made mistakes but learnt from them and was keen to get back to the approach that brought him success previously, then you could see someone looking at his past record (which is excellent) and thinking he was worth a go.

But there's absolutely zero sign of any of that. There's self confidence and there's self delusion. I just think the arrogance shines through. He still thinks he's much better than he really is.
 
I honestly think that interview will put more clubs off him than repairing the damage to his reputation.

If he'd shown a bit of humility, admitted he'd made mistakes but learnt from them and was keen to get back to the approach that brought him success previously, then you could see someone looking at his past record (which is excellent) and thinking he was worth a go.

But there's absolutely zero sign of any of that. There's self confidence and there's self delusion. I just think the arrogance shines through. He still thinks he's much better than he really is.
People like Wilder cannot admit they are wrong and are too arrogant to do so.
 
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He must be desperate to be not forgotten. His agent must have suggested doing the interview but not sure how good an idea it is.
I wonder if he’s put himself forward for a few roles and got nowhere.
In football management, you can easily get forgotten!
 
Cringey read that was. Brought back some bad memories towards the end of his time here. Good Riddance Chris.

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Chris Wilder interview: 'I'm proud of what I've done – but I'm a much better manager now'​

Former Sheffield United boss is the only Englishman to be named Manager of the Year in the past five years

ByMatt Law, FOOTBALL NEWS CORRESPONDENT3 February 2023 • 7:44am

Chris Wilder: I'm proud of what I've done but I'm a much better manager now''m proud of what I've done but I'm a much better manager now'

Chris Wilder believes he is a better leader now than when he won the Manager of the Year award in 2019 CREDIT: Geoff Pugh

Chris Wilder was already “four or five” drinks in when the warning arrived from League Managers’ Association chairman Howard Wilkinson. It was too late.
On a shortlist for the Manager of the Year award that included Pep Guardiola, Jürgen Klopp and Mauricio Pochettino, Wilder had assumed he was safe to enjoy himself. “I always remember getting a phone call from Howard Wilkinson on the train down to the LMA awards and he said ‘don’t have too much to drink’. The only problem was that it was too late! I think we were four or five in and we didn’t stop, so it was a bit of a blur,” said Wilder.
That was four years ago after Wilder had guided Sheffield United to promotion to the Premier League. Over the last 10 years, the only English winners have been the 55-year-old and Eddie Howe, and over the past five years only three men have been named Manager of the Year – Klopp twice, Guardiola twice and Wilder.
“I’m very proud of that achievement. You look at the names who have won it and it’s amazing,” said Wilder. “In a weird way, the biggest achievement was actually the following year when we finished ninth in the Premier League.”
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Wilder, pictured with Gareth Southgate (left) and Sir Alex Ferguson (right) with his 2019 award, says the night was a ‘bit of a blur’ CREDIT: Reuters/John Sibley
While Guardiola and Klopp have continued to dominate English football, and Howe has managed to reinvigorate his career at Newcastle United, Wilder has been out of work for four months after being sacked by Championship club Middlesbrough.
He is aware that 11 League games at the start of this season with Boro will currently be more relevant to some than the previous 900-plus of his managerial career – which included three titles, five promotions, eight trophies and ninth place in the Premier League – at Alfreton Town, Halifax Town, Oxford United, Northampton Town and his boyhood club Sheffield United.
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“I’m a much better manager now than the one who won the LMA,” said Wilder. “Miles better, there’s no way I can’t be. I’ve got people like Guardiola, Jose Mourinho and Gareth Southgate as references on my CV. I’ve built and forged relationships with some top operators, who I like to think recognise the work I’ve done.
“At the moment, I know some people will want to judge me on the last 11 [League] games that I managed and they will just say ‘well he lost five, drew four and only won two’ without looking into it at all because it bores them.
“But I also know that after a while other people will start to look at my body of work again and Eddie Howe, whose last job before Newcastle ended with a relegation, is probably the best example of that now.”
Wilder believes that a narrative has been built of him being a difficult character, who is better managing his players and staff than the relationships with his employers.
“We do all get pigeonholed and mine is probably as a northerner in a tracksuit who’s aggressive,” said Wilder, “By the way, Mikel Arteta is quite aggressive, Jürgen Klopp and Thomas Tuchel both wear tracksuits and they’re quite aggressive. They don’t take any prisoners.”
Wilder left the tracksuit at home for our two-hour meeting in central London, preferring a black roll neck sweater, designer jeans and black boots, and spent half-an-hour being told where to stand and look for photographs. On his combative image, Wilder continued: “The second season in the Premier League with Sheffield United became difficult and, with it being my club, I probably took on too much. At Middlesbrough, the summer transfer window didn’t go the way we wanted it to, but I never had an issue with Steve Gibson and I’d like to think if people did their homework on me then they would find out what I’m really like.
“It’s the first time in 20 years I’ve had my contract terminated. I think I’d have been sacked a few more times if I was that difficult to work with! I want things done right and I want to win, that’s all.”
Chris Wilder - Chris Wilder: ‘I’m more than just an aggressive northerner in a tracksuit’

Wilder ruffled a few feathers while managing Sheffield United CREDIT: Reuters/Nick Potts
In Wilder’s opinion, those at the top of English football for the past decade – Guardiola, Klopp, Antonio Conte, Tuchel and now Arteta – have all been managers of their football clubs, despite the trend for chairmen and chief executives to try to seek out head coaches.
Wilder sees himself as a manager, but that is not to say he cannot coach or innovate – best proven by his overlapping centre-backs at Sheffield United, who had opponents scratching their heads.
“It wasn’t a chequebook era at Sheffield United,” said Wilder. “It was about improving players. We took players who weren’t getting a game and developed them, and played a system as well.
“We started off with 4-4-2, but we quickly realised that we needed to go to three at the back. I’ve always played different types of football and different formations at the clubs I’ve been at. Primarily to win.
“We wanted to break teams down and overload teams, whether it was wide or whether it was central. The two wide centre backs were comfortable on the ball and wanted to get forwards, so we came up with something that allowed them to and I like to think it was really effective.”
Asked if he thinks people see him as a tactician, Wilder replied: “No.” And is that fair? “No, it’s not. You can’t go to Manchester United [with Middlesbrough] and get a result. You can’t beat Tottenham and not be tactically astute. You can’t go into the Premier League [with Sheffield United] without knowing what to do, what to change and how to change it.”
Wilder was accused of “dinosaur management” by one radio host for saying goalkeeper Dean Henderson, who spent two seasons on loan at Sheffield United, had to do “a bit better” after gifting Liverpool a winning goal.
Henderson later called on the club to build a statue of Wilder, which supports the former right-back’s claim that he knew exactly what he was doing.
“He let one through his legs, live on Sky, and he wanted to play for Manchester United and he wanted to play for England,” said Wilder. “Of course, I wouldn’t have done that to all the lads, but I knew the boy.
“Is it any different to what Guardiola did to Kalvin Phillips about his fitness the other week? Of course it isn’t, but he knows the boy. You know the players who can take it.”

'It's quite lazy to say that I took my eye off the ball'​

Wilder was open enough to admit that he should have handled speculation linking him with the Burnley job while he was in charge of Middlesbrough better, but described suggestions he took his eye off the ball as “bull----”.
“Looking back, I should have shut it down, I accept that,” said Wilder.
“But I think it’s quite lazy to say that I took my eye off the ball or anything like that. It’s bull----. Ask those players if I took my foot off the gas in pre-season or in that changing room. We had a difficult summer window, but in my opinion the team was playing OK and everything was telling me results would turn.
“Michael Carrick will get recognition for the job he is doing now and quite rightly so. But I think we left the team in a good place for him. We had a brilliant Cup run last season, beating Man United and Tottenham and, a bit like Michael got 25 points in his first 12 games, we took 24 points from our first 12 games.”
Having insisted on making the journey down to London to see me, rather than the other way round, Wilder sat with a notebook of pre-prepared facts and figures he did not want to forget.
One of those was that his was the eighth Championship sacking after just 11 League games. But Wilder is optimistic there will be years and seasons in front of him in management that rival or better than one that earned him his LMA award.
“Relatively speaking, I’m delighted with the career I’ve had so far,” he said. “But my hunger is as big as it’s ever been. I remember someone once saying to me ‘just bank it’ about being sacked. But, no, I want to win and once you’ve had a taste of the Premier League, you want it badly – even if it means some hard work to get back there.”
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I said when he got the bullet from Gibson that his reputation had been significantly damaged, due to the circumstances and similarities with his demise at Sheff Utd.

He'll have to drop down to L1, or maybe the SPL to get back into football, but plenty of successful managers have later disappeared without trace.

David O'Leary, Alan Curbishly etc etc
Good point
 
People like Wilder cannot admit they are wrong and are too arrogant to do so.
People admitting they are wrong have to know they are wrong. I don't think he has admitted to himself that he is wrong yet so what he says to other people he genuinely believes. It's like an alcoholic that hasn't admitted they have a drinking problem even when everyone else can see they do.
 
He did leave a decent squad behind, as evidenced by the league position we’re in - obviously the work Carrick and his staff have done has been instrumental but let’s not pretend the squad wasn’t underperforming when he arrived.

Managers leave squads in lowly positions only for the next bloke to pick them up and improve them. Warnock improved Woodgate’s situation, Karanka improved on Mowbray, etc.

He has an impressive track record. One sacking in 20-odd years is impressive.

He should’ve dealt with the Burnley speculation better. Everyone accepts that. I think he was or is annoyed he didn’t get all the players he wanted in the two windows, but also think he knew the set-up when he took the job so doesn’t have much scope for complaint on that front. I also sympathise with him for losing Tav a day or two before the first game of the season.

Wilder added Steffen, Smith, Giles, Lenihan, McGree, Forss to a pretty decent core of players.

He left under a cloud, obviously. We were struggling. We had lost our shape and stopped defending properly. It happens to teams. But we had an excellent few months under Wilder and an excellent cup run. Let’s not pretend those things didn’t happen.
 
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