What final position would you take now?

2nd place is gone. 12 points ahead with a game in hand. We need to concentrate on getting third. I'd fancy us against any of the teams in the playoffs. Our only trouble is the final being played at Wembley. Hopefully they'll double book us with an ed Sheeran concert or something and move it to Wales.

It's almost certainly gone, but they've got a tough run coming up.

Swansea, Middlesbrough, Millwall, Watford, Blackburn, Reading, Luton, Sunderland, West Brom, Norwich.

Either they drop points or they help us out (excluding our game, obviously).
 
3rd. The side who come third (I’m pretty sure) have statistically the best chance of going up from the top 6, perhaps it’s the psychology behind it.

If we came anywhere in the play-offs I’d say Carrick has still done fantastically well. It would be very disappointing now to drop out of the race entirely like we did with Wilder but I don’t think it will happen.

2nd seems unthinkable but it also seems hard to think that the automatic promotion race is completely over before February. Maybe there will be a twist, if there is I hope we’re in a position to capitalise.
 
2nd place not impossible. Sheff utd lose next week and we win next 3 games including beating them at bramall lane. Its down to 6 point gap.
 
I’m sticking with automatic promotion. No point changing my mind now.
Be interesting to pull an old thread and see what predictions were in September 😂
 
I had us down after a defeat away at Coventry, i know silly at the time! however if you said we would finish the season in the division I would of snapped your hand off. Keep the season alive i don't think we will catch Sheffield United but playoffs is deffo on.
 
I'd agree with the Op amd take 4th now, the second leg being at home does swing it. Whilst we still have a chance of making Top 2 it's certainly looking slender so there's not much chance of missing out there. And 3rd gives little advantage on 4th spot at all.
 
2nd place is gone. 12 points ahead with a game in hand. We need to concentrate on getting third. I'd fancy us against any of the teams in the playoffs. Our only trouble is the final being played at Wembley. Hopefully they'll double book us with an ed Sheeran concert or something and move it to Wales.
I believe Newcastle were 12 points ahead of Man U in the race for the title when "Wor Kev" was there?
Carrick must have learnt some of the famous "mind games" from the perpetually chewing Scot, you'd like to think...😉
 
Sheff Utd have only lost 5 all season.. we’re past half way.

We’d need them to lose that again and expect us to keep up our form of winning 8 in 10.

I can’t see it. Everything crossed for it though! I’d snap your hand off right now for 6th place.

Maybe one for the statisticians to argue:

Is it easier to overtake one team who are 12 points ahead, or 5 teams, each of whom are 6 points ahead?

If we were 6 points off 2nd, with 5 teams we had to overtake, I think we'd automatically feel we have a better chance than we do now.

However, I'd argue it's actually easier to catch 1 club 12 points clear. You're only relying on one team having a meltdown after all.
 
Second is normally around around 88 points. I can't see us getting 88 points. 79 points is 2 points per game for us from now till the end of the season. I would take 79 points.
 
If. If sheff utd drop a point or 2 more than us before we play them and then we win it could be down to less than 9 points.
They have to squeeze Wrexham in so we will likely be their 4th game in a fortnight
 
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