West Brom Season Ticket prices

[atypical_boro]

It’s really not about what I think.
For me, it’s about those he is pricing out of watching their community club by pricing ahead of many other teams.

If our prices were there or thereabouts I’d be fine

Ok, well maybe their owner is the one who gets it wrong? Charge more, sign another player or two and get closer to being able to satisfy fans expectations? At the moment they don't like what they see, so I don't think Gibson will be looking at WBA thinking "I should be more like him". Even if Gibson doesn't care a single jot about the Teesside public, he will charge what he feels comfortable with aligned with what he thinks he can realistically help the club achieve.

FTR - at this stage of my life I can't really afford to take my kids to every home and away match especially when I factor in travel, so I'd much rather prices were lower, I just don't believe I know enough about the inner workings of the club to robustly challenge it (and I'd be surprised if anyone on here really does).

 

[IR35]

I would like to see the walk up prices closer to the season card prices, I wouldn’t complain if they were the same.(some would) I think the prices reflect the costs in running the club, next some will be saying Gibbo runs the club as a tax shelter.

 

[atypical_boro]

I would like to see the walk up prices closer to the season card prices, I wouldn’t complain if they were the same.(some would) I think the prices reflect the costs in running the club, next some will be saying Gibbo runs the club as a tax shelter.

I'd like to see prices lower across the board. But it really comes down to the extent to which you trust that Gibson isn't profiteering. Gibson isn't infallible by any means, but I don't believe he is profiteering.

 

[1finny]

Ok, well maybe their owner is the one who gets it wrong? Charge more, sign another player or two and get closer to being able to satisfy fans expectations? At the moment they don't like what they see, so I don't think Gibson will be looking at WBA thinking "I should be more like him". Even if Gibson doesn't care a single jot about the Teesside public, he will charge what he feels comfortable with aligned with what he thinks he can realistically help the club achieve.

FTR - at this stage of my life I can't really afford to take my kids to every home and away match especially when I factor in travel, so I'd much rather prices were lower, I just don't believe I know enough about the inner workings of the club to robustly challenge it (and I'd be surprised if anyone on here really does).

Hang on
West Brom just missed out on the play offs
Luton (10k capacity) Coventry (no fan iincome from home games at the start of the season)…. One of them is on the way to the Prem

We, like West Brom, will be back next year in the championship.

And the answer is higher prices?
Nope

Anyway, off for tonight.
Enjoy your evening and, as aver, thanks for a civil chat

 

[atypical_boro]

Hang on
West Brom just missed out on the play offs
Luton (10k capacity) Coventry (no fan iincome from home games at the start of the season)…. One of them is on the way to the Prem

We, like West Brom, will be back next year in the championship.

And the answer is higher prices?
Nope

Anyway, off for tonight.
Enjoy your evening and, as aver, thanks for a civil chat

My point was about the fans' perception of the owner. Its different at every club. Gibson is largely trusted, so I guess that plays into his theory that he can charge more. MY point is simply that I don't think its going into his pocket, so I understand why he does what he does if it goes into the wage kitty etc. Maybe its harder to accept if you can't afford to ever watch the Boro, that would be very tough, but a lot of the time the people complaining can and do afford to watch them, thus inadvertently fortifying his position.

Same to you.

 

[IR35]

Can’t see how he’s profiteering when he underwrites the club debt. Some people on here offering opinion as fact, have they been to board meetings.

 

[h_m_boro]

Probably not as bad if it's just you, travelling locally and can afford a ST. Prices are good.

But walk up prices £10 per game more than a ST pays, kids at £18......gets to be an expensive do for families.

And there is a threshold where if kids can't afford to go (or parents can't afford to take them) the potential supporters of the future will be lost. They will find other ways to spend their time. Boro at the Riverside will be of little interest.

But, this is part of a much, much bigger picture regarding football finances and how much money is in the game......but stays at the top with the players and agents. Boro just a very small part of this.

 

[18MFC76]

I don’t care or know if he is benefitting personally.
I also don’t know the circumstances of West Brom.

It doesn’t stop what I think - he is taking advantage of the community.

As I said - it will be defended. It always is

The prices are generally defended by the same people too. A lot of the "I'm alright, Jack" types. I completely agree with you. If we were there or thereabouts then I wouldn't mind. Slightly more expensive, no problem. However our prices in one of the most deprived areas of the country are being put to shame by most other Championship clubs and what they charge.

 

[atypical_boro]

Always defended by the same people too. The "I'm alright, Jack" types. I completely agree with you. If we were there or thereabouts then I wouldn't mind. Slightly more expensive, no problem. However our prices in one of the most deprived areas of the country are being put to shame by most other Championship clubs and what they charge.

It’s defended by the same people because those people tend to hold the same opinion every time the topic arises. It’s nothing to do with “I’m alright Jack”, it’s about trying to understand how the industry works and how the owner/staff are motivated. Some of us work in the commercial sector and it’s not always very productive to just demand that everything is cheaper without trying to understand the reasons why, and draw binary conclusions about everybody involved.

Whether you agree with it or not, there is a reason why every single thing on planet earth is priced the way it is. I find that an interesting subject.

 

[18MFC76]

It’s defended by the same people because those people tend to hold the same opinion every time the topic arises. It’s nothing to do with “I’m alright Jack”, it’s about trying to understand how the industry works and how the owner/staff are motivated. Some of us work in the commercial sector and it’s not always very productive to just demand that everything is cheaper without trying to understand the reasons why, and draw binary conclusions.

Whether you agree with it or not, there is a reason why every single thing on planet earth is priced the way it is. I find that an interesting subject.

I see what you're saying but regardless of the commercial sector certain things are just morally wrong. For example charging a child £18 for a walk up ticket. Because they are categorised as Under 18, unlike other clubs that are putting them into categories based on age, some of our fans are having to pay £18 for a 5 or 6 year old. That's just morally wrong.

 

[atypical_boro]

I see what you're saying but regardless of the commercial sector certain things are just morally wrong. For example charging a child £18 for a walk up ticket. Because they are categorised as Under 18, unlike other clubs that are putting them into categories based on age. Some of our fans are having to pay £18 for a 5 or 6 year old. That's just morally wrong.

I don’t disagree about morals but very few large organisations put “morals” at the forefront of their mind. For the simple reason that their competitors don’t and it’s a highly competitive world.

Morally the club could take the view that £10 is enough, or £20, or whatever, but it doesn’t come without compromise. There are clearly other clubs who have to, or choose to, charge lower amounts, and all I’m saying is that all 24 Championship clubs are not in an identical position and in reality none of us really have a strong enough grasp of the mechanics behind it all at each individual club.

 

[18MFC76]

I don’t disagree about morals but very few large organisations put “morals” at the forefront of their mind. For the simple reason that their competitors don’t and it’s a highly competitive world.

Morally the club could take the view that £10 is enough, or £20, or whatever, but it doesn’t come without compromise. There are clearly other clubs who have to, or choose to, charge lower amounts, and all I’m saying is that all 24 Championship clubs are not in an identical position and in reality none of us really have a strong enough grasp of the mechanics behind it all at each individual club.

Making our child walk up prices more reasonable and put into categories based on age wouldn't hit the club that hard surely? The vast majority of our fans are season ticket holders on a matchday anyway. Even if it was Under 12's for £12 or something along those lines. It may even go the other way and it would encourage more people to bring their kids along and would add more revenue into the club. I feel the club are a little short sighted when it comes to our pricing for kids. You need to look at your long term financial plan too and those are your fans of the future. We can look at it from all angles but the reality is a walk up ticket for someone aged 5/6/7 shouldn't be costing just shy of £20. It's scandalous and this is where other clubs really put us to shame. That can only come down to greed.

Boro pride cards (for adults and children) should be re-introduced too where you pay a small fee but then get a discounted walk up ticket as a result. I'm not sure why they were ever stopped.

 

[Emmersons_BrazillianDong]

Ok, well maybe their owner is the one who gets it wrong? Charge more, sign another player or two and get closer to being able to satisfy fans expectations? At the moment they don't like what they see, so I don't think Gibson will be looking at WBA thinking "I should be more like him". Even if Gibson doesn't care a single jot about the Teesside public, he will charge what he feels comfortable with aligned with what he thinks he can realistically help the club achieve.

FTR - at this stage of my life I can't really afford to take my kids to every home and away match especially when I factor in travel, so I'd much rather prices were lower, I just don't believe I know enough about the inner workings of the club to robustly challenge it (and I'd be surprised if anyone on here really does).

You don't need to know the inner workings of the club to know that our prices are inflated. Just compare to others as is done every year.

I've no truck with it personally because I'm very fortunate that it doesn't affect me. There's a model they use each year, it's not new now. But it's a choice.

I also would say that nobody has ever suggested (with a straight face) that SG benefits from it personally.

As Mogga would say.......

 

[parmoboy]

Their junior pricing puts ours to shame. I get that it works out cheap if a parent buys a season card with their child to sit in the GRFZ but what about teenagers who are wanting to have a season card with their mates?

At West Brom it would cost eight 16 year olds less overall to buy eight season tickets together than it would for one 16 year old to buy one season ticket at the Riverside.

 

[Funky_Chicken]

Football is generally an overpriced “product” - people still pay it because they love their teams and want to see them play. As long as people keep coming in numbers the prices aren’t going to come down, and Boro can expect to have more season ticket holders next season than since the last premier league campaign - perhaps 23-24 thousand if signings go well, so Gibson probably thinks they have prices just right

 

[18MFC76]

Football is generally an overpriced “product” - people still pay it because they love their teams and want to see them play. As long as people keep coming in numbers the prices aren’t going to come down, and Boro can expect to have more season ticket holders next season than since the last premier league campaign - perhaps 23-24 thousand if signings go well, so Gibson probably thinks they have prices just right

No way will we have 24 thousand season ticket holders next season in the Championship no matter who we sign. Especially now the early bird prices have passed.