well said newsnight

With any illness like this, the body either reacts to treatment or it does not. No amount of willpower will influence the outcome. This was also a discussion on 5live yesterday morning and one caller made a point. Imagine leaving the children of a cancer victim with the impression that their dad didn't fight hard enough?
 
Another example

BUPA members have a GP on video call at 2 hours maximum notice - 24-7 who can make the same referrals as a NHS GP. This service is free to members. BUPA will also organise prescriptions delivered to your door for free.

It would be great if the NHS did the same.
 
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Another example

BUPA members have a GP on video call at 2 hours maximum notice - 24-7 who can make the same referrals as a NHS GP. This service is free to members. BUPA will also organise prescriptions delivered to your door for free.

It would be great if the NHS did the same.

Blimey. Didn't know BUPA was for free! :cautious:
 
If anything the things Maitlis said are just plain obvious, they are not in anyway treading on dangerous ground or needed saying.

People living in flats or tower blocks will suffer the lockdown more than those with gardens to go out in, obvious. Confinement in small spaces for a prolonged period of time isn't good for you and that goes for expensive apartments as well.

Frontline works, no matter the pay scale, coming in contact with people daily are at more risk than people working from home, obvious. The virus is generally passed on through some form of close contact. It's killed a doctor, a nurse, a healthcare worker, all frontline workers and from the high end of the pay scale to the lower end. The virus doesn't care for the wealth level of who it kills, only certain news reporters and those with a political point do that.

I wonder what compassion she's shown towards the cleaners who work in the BBC while she spouts out the obvious.

In respect of catching the disease it is a level playing field, anyone can catch it. You can take steps to minimise your risk, but even that may not be enough. So, anyone rich, poor, healthy, unhealthy, young, old, unemployed or employed can catch it. Wasn't the first super carrier a businessman who'd come from Asia via a skiing trip in France or Italy and then into the UK? Hardly a low paid worker.

“The disease is not a great leveller, the consequences of which everyone - rich or poor - suffers the same,” the 49-year-old said. I've looked online and can't find anyone who has claimed the virus is a great leveller, is this something she's just made up?

As for - Foreign secretary Dominic Raab - who is currently deputising while Boris Johnson remains in intensive care - has said he was sure the PM would pull through because “he’s a fighter”.

What would you expect him to say, "The PM has a virus with no vaccine or cure so we are hoping that his immune system is strong enough and he doesn't die."

How many times a day does the phrase "He/she is fighting (insert disease of choice)" get used? It's such a common phrase to try and weaponize it is just ridiculous. It in no way means if you die you didn't fight hard enough just as it doesn't mean if you survive you fought it and beat it.

If any of you were in the awful position that someone you knew contracted the virus would you not be saying something like, "You can fight this/you can beat this..." or any other positive battling phrase? Would you not be giving them or their relatives some form of positive encouragement like Rabb has done?

It's what people do, offer moral support however implausible it may sound.

The only fighting involved with this virus is from your immune system, it will either be successful or not.

What I can't believe is educated adults can't see this as nothing more than an article stating the bleeding obvious and taking a commonly used phrase way out of context.
 
If anything the things Maitlis said are just plain obvious, they are not in anyway treading on dangerous ground or needed saying.

People living in flats or tower blocks will suffer the lockdown more than those with gardens to go out in, obvious. Confinement in small spaces for a prolonged period of time isn't good for you and that goes for expensive apartments as well.

Frontline works, no matter the pay scale, coming in contact with people daily are at more risk than people working from home, obvious. The virus is generally passed on through some form of close contact. It's killed a doctor, a nurse, a healthcare worker, all frontline workers and from the high end of the pay scale to the lower end. The virus doesn't care for the wealth level of who it kills, only certain news reporters and those with a political point do that.

I wonder what compassion she's shown towards the cleaners who work in the BBC while she spouts out the obvious.

In respect of catching the disease it is a level playing field, anyone can catch it. You can take steps to minimise your risk, but even that may not be enough. So, anyone rich, poor, healthy, unhealthy, young, old, unemployed or employed can catch it. Wasn't the first super carrier a businessman who'd come from Asia via a skiing trip in France or Italy and then into the UK? Hardly a low paid worker.

“The disease is not a great leveller, the consequences of which everyone - rich or poor - suffers the same,” the 49-year-old said. I've looked online and can't find anyone who has claimed the virus is a great leveller, is this something she's just made up?

As for - Foreign secretary Dominic Raab - who is currently deputising while Boris Johnson remains in intensive care - has said he was sure the PM would pull through because “he’s a fighter”.

What would you expect him to say, "The PM has a virus with no vaccine or cure so we are hoping that his immune system is strong enough and he doesn't die."

How many times a day does the phrase "He/she is fighting (insert disease of choice)" get used? It's such a common phrase to try and weaponize it is just ridiculous. It in no way means if you die you didn't fight hard enough just as it doesn't mean if you survive you fought it and beat it.

If any of you were in the awful position that someone you knew contracted the virus would you not be saying something like, "You can fight this/you can beat this..." or any other positive battling phrase? Would you not be giving them or their relatives some form of positive encouragement like Rabb has done?

It's what people do, offer moral support however implausible it may sound.

The only fighting involved with this virus is from your immune system, it will either be successful or not.

What I can't believe is educated adults can't see this as nothing more than an article stating the bleeding obvious and taking a commonly used phrase way out of context.

Madonna was the most high profile person to say it was the “great leveller” or words to that effect.
 
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