Us selling bamford to Leeds

indeedido said:
Bamford is a bright lad, he's never bad mouthed people at clubs he's left. Even with Dyche at Burnley he didn't say anything negative personally. He's a very intelligent bloke with class.
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Never said otherwise. But I don’t profess to know every detail about why he left.
 
RandySavage said:
Are we still talking about Bamford after all this time?
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Boring as isn’t it. He left and has progressed his career. I imagine he is happy very happy with his decision. We need to start thinking about someone in who can have a Bamford like impact rather than harping on about a player who is playing well in the premier league and left about 2 years ago
 
Let's hope we win the next game.

We'll then keeps posts such as this, and why can't we be like Burnley, at bay until the next defeat.

On the positive side there are less posters coming on and letting know us they are dispirited and falling out of love with the game. ☹️

UtB😄😄
 
We had 5 CFs at the time. I don't agree with pulis usually but he slated monks spending by questioning why he bought Braithwaite / Britt and Fletcher when we already had Bamford and Rudy.

Thats 5 expensive forwards on big money to play one position.

That said we sold the only one you'd want to keep😕.

I heard one of the reasons we're that he was on big wages and we could turk down 10mil. That simply don't stack up when you then spend 21mil and loan Hugill for 2mil and Besic on big wages.

The fact is pulis never fancied him. The writing was on the wall as soon as he was dropped in the playoffs for Rudy despite being our in form forward.
 
S7DiscoDown said:
We had 5 CFs at the time. I don't agree with pulis usually but he slated monks spending by questioning why he bought Braithwaite / Britt and Fletcher when we already had Bamford and Rudy.

Thats 5 expensive forwards on big money to play one position.

That said we sold the only one you'd want to keep😕.

I heard one of the reasons we're that he was on big wages and we could turk down 10mil. That simply don't stack up when you then spend 21mil and loan Hugill for 2mil and Besic on big wages.

The fact is pulis never fancied him. The writing was on the wall as soon as he was dropped in the playoffs for Rudy despite being our in form forward.
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Pulis blew that play off v Villa, with Adama in the team anything was possible but Pulis just wasn’t brave enough with his tactics or selection and not picking Bamford was part of his downfall.
 
There was a game against Bristol City I think it was when Bamford went down heavily. The game was held up for 11 minutes and Bamford was stretchered off wearing a neck brace. Pulis told the press he'd called Bamford a 'softy' in the dressing room afterwards.

Bamford didn't get a look-in for the rest of the season.
 
Anyone, who feels it correct to defend the club (never mind Pulis) regarding the sale of Bamford to Leeds on pure footballing terms has to have an alternate personal agenda in my view, mind, history indicates that some will defend the club on players until the club are rid, then it seemingly becomes fair game for them to agree at that point. There was not one good reason to sell him and keep Britt and Mr Flimflam on pure footballing or squad building terms (imho). The money can not have been needed surely, especially given the outlay from the club that summer.

Bamfordgate was not Mr Gibsons finest hour it seems, I am surprised nobody thought to mention that at the time. Still, Pulis was maybe a well paid Mr Punch, who knows eh, I doubt the definitive version of why he was sold will ever be told and fans who care are just left to speculate.
 
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coluka said:
Anyone, who feels it correct to defend the club (never mind Pulis) regarding the sale of Bamford to Leeds on pure footballing terms has to have an alternate personal agenda in my view,
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There's nothing wrong with anyone having a 'personal agenda' is there? Particularly if that agenda is clearly thought out and consistent.

At least you haven't accused anyone of being 'uneducated' on this occasion.
 
indeedido said:
Absolute rubbish. A £15m striker doesn't sign on lower wages than a £6m one. Give your head a shake.
It was utter madness.
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A Premier League striker doesn’t sign on less than a Championship striker then? Ding bat. Bamford will have been on very similar wages to Britt. I’d imagine it would have been more but there certainly wouldn’t have been much in it.
 
Bamford has said many of his past English managers did not fancy him because he was posh for a footballer and had had too easy a life - Pulis and Monk could be 2 of them. I was surprised when we sold him, because he was our best forward in 2018.
 
Paulroddam7 said:
A Premier League striker doesn’t sign on less than a Championship striker then? Ding bat. Bamford will have been on very similar wages to Britt. I’d imagine it would have been more but there certainly wouldn’t have been much in it.
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You can not be serious here. You have failed to put into context the fact that although Bamford was retained by a PL club, his contract value and salary will likely have been relatively low for a PL player. He was passed from pillar to post and the only home he was offered was at a PL club planning for likely relegation. If you think he was offered mega bucks based on his achievements I really do not buy that. Britt however, was prised from Forest for a fortune as a first choice player expected to shoot us to the PL at the first attempt. Personally, I would be more than gobsmacked if Paddy had even close to the level of contract Britt had salary wise.
 
This message board would have been brilliant back in the day.

I’m still gutted we sold Pallister

And, don’t get me started on Craig Johnston
 
Terrible comparisons to the Bamford situation though aren't they? Might as well throw Juninho into the mix while you're at it. Agree it's old ground that has been gone over many times in the past. But if people want to vent why not? Just like the politics threads folk don't have to read them.

I'm still annoyed by it, I can't think of a more stupid player sale we've done. The vast vast majority of Boro fans rated him, the vastly experienced manager, who I think has in the past commented on fans lack of understanding of the game, did not. In a team struggling for goals we had two standout attacking performers who got us into the play offs. We had to sell Traore, no choice in that. Selling the other was bonkers. The fact Pulis has repeatedly tried to excuse the sale by blaming it on Bamford "wanting to leave" and "we needed the money" tells you he knows it was a mistake. He probably suspected so at the time but was obsessed with his "system" which seems to absolutely require a big donkey up front rather than a footballer. He also clearly didn't like Bamford much personally either. Better for him to move the "problem" on. Utterly infuriating given our record in the transfer market in recent seasons.

As we know finding a good striker is very hard. But let one go without being forced to, when it was blindingly obvious to anyone with eyes the quality he had is inexcusable.

Maybe when we find one of comparable quality we'll stop talking about it. Could be a long time though.
 
festa5 said:
Terrible comparisons to the Bamford situation though aren't they? Might as well throw Juninho into the mix while you're at it. Agree it's old ground that has been gone over many times in the past. But if people want to vent why not? Just like the politics threads folk don't have to read them.

I'm still annoyed by it, I can't think of a more stupid player sale we've done. The vast vast majority of Boro fans rated him, the vastly experienced manager, who I think has in the past commented on fans lack of understanding of the game, did not. In a team struggling for goals we had two standout attacking performers who got us into the play offs. We had to sell Traore, no choice in that. Selling the other was bonkers. The fact Pulis has repeatedly tried to excuse the sale by blaming it on Bamford "wanting to leave" and "we needed the money" tells you he knows it was a mistake. He probably suspected so at the time but was obsessed with his "system" which seems to absolutely require a big donkey up front rather than a footballer. He also clearly didn't like Bamford much personally either. Better for him to move the "problem" on. Utterly infuriating given our record in the transfer market in recent seasons.

As we know finding a good striker is very hard. But let one go without being forced to, when it was blindingly obvious to anyone with eyes the quality he had is inexcusable.

Maybe when we find one of comparable quality we'll stop talking about it. Could be a long time though.
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Echo this.

The blame lies directly at Pulis & Gibson.

How either/both thought it was sensible to sell our best striker and most obvious goal threat, and fail to replace him, was bonkers.

It was a crazy decision at the time and even with hindsight it's proved to be a quite ridiculous decision.

We were low on scoring goals, had to sell Traore...so what else does Pulis & Gibson do? Sell our best striker.

Complete and utter bonkers.
 
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