UK's statistics watchdog has criticised the government over its handling of coronavirus testing data.

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The chairman of the UK Statistics Authority says presentation of figures appeared to be aimed at showing "the largest possible number of tests, even at the expense of understanding".
Sir David Norgrove has written to Health Secretary Matt Hancock saying the information is "far from complete".

Coronavirus: Government criticised over use of testing data https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52889103
 
"The way the data are analysed and presented currently gives them limited value for the first purpose.
"The aim seems to be to show the largest possible number of tests, even at the expense of understanding. It is also hard to believe the statistics work to support the testing programme itself. The statistics and analysis serve neither purpose well."

not great is it
 
Can you remember ministerial accountability as well.

what happened to this

Individual ministerial responsibility is a constitutional convention in governments using the Westminster System that a cabinet minister bears the ultimate responsibility for the actions of their ministry or department. ... If misdeeds are found to have occurred in a ministry, the minister is expected to resign.”
 
Lies, damned lies, and statistics... par for the course nowadays......Gove used to be brilliant at it when Ed Sec...think he used a survey from Woman's Weekly once to argue a case and implement a policy.
 
Should be front page news in a democratic country. The fact that it isn't says everything. The overnight addition on Saturday of 40000 POTENTIAL anti body tests to push the already contrived test figure over 200k would be mocked if North Korea had done it, here our so-called journalists keep their heads down and bow.
 
This is how things are. It does not come from the Tories or people with certain political views. It was just as rife within the civil service when I was working there under Blair. It can be found at every level of society.
 
This is how things are. It does not come from the Tories or people with certain political views. It was just as rife within the civil service when I was working there under Blair. It can be found at every level of society.

It has gone to an all new level.

Thatcher suppressed stuff and began the spin trend. Blair developed the spin side of things but didn’t outright lie. Even the Iraq dossier and justification was about going to considerable lengths to find a thin factual basis to justify the decision. Many of us said at the time that the consequences of the way we went into war were going to be worse and more far reaching than the actual casualties of the war itself, not just in the region but to our democracy and integrity.

But this lot. It’s been four years of brazen dishonourable behaviour. Our uncodified constitution worked only because there were standards of behaviour and the public shaming and ostracism from the upper tiers of society, power and money for those found to fall below those standards were a deterrent and severe punishment for our ambitious ruling class types, as the legal framework we can now see was never there. Now that these people don’t care anymore about the shame, are largely protected by media magnates with no class, plus the modern news cycle and internet fake news muddying the waters, the lack of legal recourse and repercussions becomes significant.

All that was then missing as a check was the public holding them to account. Instead, brexiters dispensed with critical thinking, lost sight of what was more important and rewarded deceit. This at least was forgivable as the media did a poor job of understanding Brexit and the EU and then holding the charlatans to account, so those voters who didn’t look in to a very complicated issue or allowed their instincts and nature to impede their better judgement were bound to get it wrong.

But those who continued to double down thereafter, while all the extra information, duplicity and understanding came out, who continued to give these people support and did not at least call for a confirmatory vote, well, this is on you and not excusable I’m afraid. These last four years of waiting for your supposed clever leaders to decide what it was that they told you to vote for, what you wanted, and then come up with the plan they should have already had - I mean who even does that! - while everything else, including preparing for a predicted pandemic, was put on hold, well it all stems from your myopic stupidity.
 
You're talking about goodies and baddies in a soap opera. Iraq is irrelevant. League tables of schools are if you want an example from blair. A bureaucracy is apolitical and its actions are governed by the needs of the individuals within the bureaucracy. Education, healthcare, law are all governed by targets and manipulation of statistics to meet those targets. People try to meet those targets so they can stay in government at the top level and to improve their career prospects at the levels lower down.

The testing target given in the last few weeks was sausages dangled in front of a hungry dog. It's a process we see at every level of our bureaucracy every day. You may as well proscribe politics to photosynthesis.
 
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