Truss is Tanking

[BoroMart]

To be fair I don’t think he was on about Liz Truss losing her job.. I think he meant normal people like you and me.

As much as we all want to see the end of the Tories it feels as though we will all have to suffer first.

I've got every sympathy for those who have been dragged kicking and screaming on this tory ideological journey. But lets be honest about this, a huge number of working class people particularly in the north have voted for these people. Those people chose to be on this path, they reap what they sow, unfortunately they've enforced it on many other innocent people too and I feel for them. They've largely gone quiet on here, no more vicious defending of what they've done, less people admitting they voted for them, but you did and that can't be scrubbed from your conscience.

Every person that has voted tory in the last decade should hang their heads in shame for the mess this country is in, the poverty, the foodbanks, the rising costs, and coming loss of homes, and of course the theft of our wealth by a small elite cabal of tory donors, shills and members. If you did it to control immigration, did that work? NO. If you did it to return power to westminster, well that didn't work either because power is in the hands of a small number of ideological Tories. Was it because of a lack of trust in Labours Fiscal policies, well that was a huge error of judgement, the tories have set fire to our economy. Was it because Ed Milliband ate a bacon sandwich funny? Well how competent is Liz Truss at anything?

 

[Ironops]

KK has said the triple lock for pensioners will stay.

I think they may increase the general benefit rates at 5.5 which is set at average earnings.

The political difficulty is that they intend it would appear to only pay government workers ( of which I am one ) 2%, let’s get ready for a winter of discontent.

They have to keep pensions high, pensioners are the only ones who vote for them

 

[BoroMart]

Beige starmer is not.

I'd take beige over diarrhea brown at this point in time

 

[Anton_Berg]

Is this good or bad?

 

[Angus]

I work in a department of government where they have been recruiting staff hand over fist the last 3 -4 years.

It is going to be interesting as to what pans out now. I can only imagine that will stop and there will be talk of voluntary redundancies.

 

[HolgateCorner]

I've got every sympathy for those who have been dragged kicking and screaming on this tory ideological journey. But lets be honest about this, a huge number of working class people particularly in the north have voted for these people. Those people chose to be on this path, they reap what they sow, unfortunately they've enforced it on many other innocent people too and I feel for them. They've largely gone quiet on here, no more vicious defending of what they've done, less people admitting they voted for them, but you did and that can't be scrubbed from your conscience.

Every person that has voted tory in the last decade should hang their heads in shame for the mess this country is in, the poverty, the foodbanks, the rising costs, and coming loss of homes, and of course the theft of our wealth by a small elite cabal of tory donors, shills and members. If you did it to control immigration, did that work? NO. If you did it to return power to westminster, well that didn't work either because power is in the hands of a small number of ideological Tories. Was it because of a lack of trust in Labours Fiscal policies, well that was a huge error of judgement, the tories have set fire to our economy. Was it because Ed Milliband ate a bacon sandwich funny? Well how competent is Liz Truss at anything?

I think you have to forgive and forget, many Tory voters at the last election will have done so because Uncle Boris was spinning them a yarn about sunlit uplands to get his portrait on the wall in no 10.

Hopefully they will have learnt their lesson.

No excuses this time around though…

 

[Angus]

I think you have to forgive and forget, many Tory voters at the last election will have done so because Uncle Boris was spinning them a yarn about sunlit uplands to get his portrait on the wall in no 10.

Hopefully they will have learnt their lesson.

No excuses this time around though…

Brexit was the dominant factor at the last election. People wanted it resolved it has been for most people.

The reality is now we are in very difficult economic circumstances, it’s going to be interesting to see if the government can spin the news cycle and try and avoid responsibility for things. That looks an incredibly difficult task when the leader is effectively a wooden robot.

Nothing has really happened yet and they have thrown into chaos. The last week has entirely been of their own making.

When a real problem arises outside their control, it wouldn’t appear that they are capable of dealing with it.

 

[ThePrisoner]

I think you have to forgive and forget

Christ no. Actions must have consequences. Working class Tories have to come crawling on their knees begging forgiveness before it can be considered. In fact we should use them to solve the worker and refugee crises at one stroke by lodging Romanians and Somalians with them. Sorted

 

[SmallTown]

Brexit was the dominant factor at the last election. People wanted it resolved it has been for most people.

It hasn't. Not by a very very long way

 

[Capybara]

It hasn't. Not by a very very long way

Yes it has. People were bored with hearing about it. They don't hear about it any more so it has been resolved in their view.

 

[ThePrisoner]

I work in a department of government where they have been recruiting staff hand over fist the last 3 -4 years.

It is going to be interesting as to what pans out now. I can only imagine that will stop and there will be talk of voluntary redundancies.

You are Ron Swanson and I claim my commemorative lil' Sebastian portrait

 

[SmallTown]

Yes it has. People were bored with hearing about it. They don't hear about it any more so it has been resolved in their view.

I’m bored of hearing about high energy bills. I still have to pay them.
You can bury your head in the sand as much as possible but Brexit is still ongoing and still destroying the country

 

[Angus]

It hasn't. Not by a very very long way

For most people it has, no one talks about it, it is unlikely to be a big political issue in the next two years.

I am not saying it has important consequences for the country, but that politics has moved on.

 

[BoroMart]

I think you have to forgive and forget, many Tory voters at the last election will have done so because Uncle Boris was spinning them a yarn about sunlit uplands to get his portrait on the wall in no 10.

Forgiveness comes when they admit their mistakes instead of doubling down, and right it via elections

 

[BoroMart]

Yes it has. People were bored with hearing about it. They don't hear about it any more so it has been resolved in their view.

being bored doesn't solve issues. That's a fingers in ear solution to a problem, i.e. no solution.

These brexit voters might claim it is resolved, they regularly do, but british businesses and people are feeling the costs every day and there are still outstanding issues to resolve long term.

 

[SmallTown]

For most people it has, no one talks about it, it is unlikely to be a big political issue in the next two years.

I am not saying it has important consequences for the country, but that politics has moved on.

I think that's incorrect. People are trying to ignore it, or deflect from it. But once COVID and Putin snd everything else has gone and we realise the country still has problems, they eventually won't be able to hide the fact that Brexit is causing so much damage. The only people I say actively not wanting to talk about it are Brexiteers. I assume these people are too embarrassed and would rather it went away. But it won't. until issues are fixed

 

[BoroMart]

All brought in by the party you voted for and nothing to do with Brexit

sorry but brexit is part of it. They're trying to stimulate the economy partly because the british businesses that rely on exports have taken an enormous hit. If we hadn't taken that hit, our finances would be healthier. So it's very much part of this, but not the entirety of it, of course. we can't pretend that leaving the EU has been net neutral or positive to our economy, that's silly.

 

[Glover_elbow]

tax cuts and other sweeteners for the rich whilst everyone else is hard up or goes under who would have thought its the only way out of this mess. Its like shes read a free market textbook, and is following the exercises with no insight into the real world. How long before the tory's turn on her.

 

[Angus]

sorry but brexit is part of it. They're trying to stimulate the economy partly because the british businesses that rely on exports have taken an enormous hit. If we hadn't taken that hit, our finances would be healthier. So it's very much part of this, but not the entirety of it, of course. we can't pretend that leaving the EU has been net neutral or positive to our economy, that's silly.

The last election was about Brexit, this one won’t be. Trying to make it about Brexit would be a mistake for anyone but the Conservative party, there is no political appetite for it amongst the general population.

I am a remainder, Brexit only helped to embolden Putin, it was a big mistake.

 

[Cardiffdaffs]

tax cuts and other sweeteners for the rich whilst everyone else is hard up or goes under who would have thought its the only way out of this mess. Its like shes read a free market textbook, and is following the exercises with no insight into the real world. How long before the tory's turn on her.

No it is not even her that’s thinking this up. She can’t read a textbook anyway. It’s the “shadowy” right wing think tank behind her that is coming up with these policies. I say shadowy because the ILE does not reveal its funders. If that isn’t worrying enough she is clearly a puppet with no depth of analysis herself allowing these people to dictate how the country is run.