Tories pressured BBC over Johnson's claim Starmer failed to prosecute Jimmy Savile - Guardian article

[exiledinboro]

Don’t worry, I’ve reported you.

I think you’ve deliberately taken this thread of topic and weirdly moaned when it discussed relevant points to use abusive language

Hopefully you get banned again

 

[Randy]

I would take it to mean that, given our electoral system, any vote given to a party other than the party most likely to beat the Tories in your constituency may as well be handing them your vote.

I hate it too. It's ridiculous... But it doesn't make it any less true.

I get that. But rabid labour supporters are telling people to give up what they believe in to get rid of the Tories. How does that then make them any better than the Tories?
Surely the way should be to make coalitions with these other parties if Labour are worried about not beating the Conservatives at the next election instead of sniping at folk who don't want to vote red or blue? An election may I add that Labour should best them comfortably in.

 

[m3t4tr0n]

I get that. But rabid labour supporters are telling people to give up what they believe in to get rid of the Tories. How does that then make them any better than the Tories?
Surely the way should be to make coalitions with these other parties if Labour are worried about not beating the Conservatives at the next election instead of sniping at folk who don't want to vote red or blue? An election may I add that Labour should best them comfortably in.

I think perhaps there is a distinction to be made between 'rabid' labour supporters, people who really want to get the Tories out and the labour party itself.

I come at this as someone who believes that the main priority is to kick the Tories out. I find it hard to reconcile why anyone who hates them and what they have done would cast a vote that could end up helping them. I really wish that we didn't have to do that ... From my perspective if I could right now, I'd probably vote green, but I know if I did, certainly in my constituency, I may as well put my cross in the blue box for all the good it'll do. I wish we had a system (and would vote for it in a heartbeat) where we could all vote the way we would like and it would count, but we have an archaic system that doesn't represent the population... But we can only work with what we have, no matter how that sucks.

That's the way I see it anyway.

 

[Randy]

I think perhaps there is a distinction to be made between 'rabid' labour supporters, people who really want to get the Tories out and the labour party itself.

I come at this as someone who believes that the main priority is to kick the Tories out. I find it hard to reconcile why anyone who hates them and what they have done would cast a vote that could end up helping them. I really wish that we didn't have to do that ... From my perspective if I could right now, I'd probably vote green, but I know if I did, certainly in my constituency, I may as well put my cross in the blue box for all the good it'll do. I wish we had a system (and would vote for it in a heartbeat) where we could all vote the way we would like and it would count, but we have an archaic system that doesn't represent the population... But we can only work with what we have, no matter how that sucks.

That's the way I see it anyway.

Reasoned response Tron. Appreciated.