Tories Lose Chesham and Amersham

Simple question really, are they protesting against the building of a hospital?
If they're not why did you mention it?
 
Complaining against the building of housing during a housing crisis is pretty much equivalent to complaining about the building of a hospital during a health crisis in my opinion. If I owned a house whose value had rocketed by ten percent in the last year I'd probably think differently.
 
Sheriff_John_Bunnell_ret said:
Complaining against the building of housing during a housing crisis is pretty much equivalent to complaining about the building of a hospital during a health crisis in my opinion. If I owned a house whose value had rocketed by ten percent in the last year I'd probably think differently.
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They are not complaining about the building of housing per se, they are complaining about where houses are planned to be built. There's more than a subtle difference.
 
I believe it was a pro remain constituency during the Brexit vote, perhaps people seeing how Brexit is playing out and how the UK is embarrassing it's self further has something to do with it too.

We agreed an oven ready deal with the EU then when it's not working out the way we want it, we blame the EU, our government are embarrassing us further on a world stage, never mind the cut to foreign aid.

Never mind though will soon have a new yacht ferrying the rich around the world in luxury flying our flag and having turned out back on our nearest and biggest trading block, we will have deals with Australia, India, USA, etc.

At least we have got our country back and are able to stop all those nasty horrible people from those nasty EU countries coming here, despite so many people from here wanting the go on holiday to those very same nasty EU countries, it's all very strange .
 
NYboro said:
They are actually complaining about the fact that the Tories are trying to remove local control of planning.
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Tories have always wanted to remove regulation and the Tory voters in that constituency have voted for it for decades but now that it's going to affect them and they may end up encountering common people they don't like it. Just more hypocritical Tory vermin.
 
ThePrisoner said:
Tories have always wanted to remove regulation and the Tory voters in that constituency have voted for it for decades but now that it's going to affect them and they may end up encountering common people they don't like it. Just more hypocritical Tory vermin.
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I don't think so. Traditional Tory voters have nothing in common with the current day Conservative party, it doesn't align with their viewpoints anymore. The relaxation of planning laws is the main crux of the objection. Imagine going back to the days of the 70's where any old thing could be built, the houses and extensions were bloody awful. There is nothing wrong with keeping planning laws in place to ensure quality and that buildings fit in with the surrounding area, thats how we keep places nice.
 
BaronSmoggie said:
I don't think so. Traditional Tory voters have nothing in common with the current day Conservative party, it doesn't align with their viewpoints anymore. The relaxation of planning laws is the main crux of the objection. Imagine going back to the days of the 70's where any old thing could be built, the houses and extensions were bloody awful. There is nothing wrong with keeping planning laws in place to ensure quality and that buildings fit in with the surrounding area, thats how we keep places nice.
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That's a canard. They don't want it because it affects them. Nimbyism pure and simple. If was anywhere else they'd be piling in to invest in the developments.

'Traditional Tory voters have nothing in common with the current day Conservative party,'

I've seen the bigotry, snobbery, contempt, racism, elitism and corruption of Tories for decades. Largely, that is what they want to conserve. The current corps aren't much different.
 
I think they were protesting about Johnson, it was only a matter of time.

The Tories called it a complex electorate with a lot of graduates, maybe admitting that Hartlepool wasn’t quite as educated…?
 
Ex pfc wintergreen said:
I was making the point that increasing your vote percentage means nothing if it doesn't result in seats won. It's the equivalent of having most of the possession in a game and getting beat,(hi there Boro).
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Vote percentage does matter eventually though, there is a tipping point. Electoral reform is required to make it more democratic.
 
ThePrisoner said:
That's a canard. They don't want it because it affects them. Nimbyism pure and simple. If was anywhere else they'd be piling in to invest in the developments.

'Traditional Tory voters have nothing in common with the current day Conservative party,'

I've seen the bigotry, snobbery, contempt, racism, elitism and corruption of Tories for decades. Largely, that is what they want to conserve. The current corps aren't much different.
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I'd say thats as much a canard comment too. You seem to have an entrenched position.
 
BaronSmoggie said:
I'd say thats as much a canard comment too. You seem to have an entrenched position.
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No it's a position that has developed over time and the current corrupt authoritarians who are running this country into the ground give me no reason to shift position.
 
ThePrisoner said:
No it's a position that has developed over time and the current corrupt authoritarians who are running this country into the ground give me no reason to shift position.
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I was referring to this.

'They don't want it because it affects them. Nimbyism pure and simple.'
 
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