Time for Gibson to sell up?
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BoroMart
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Not really comparable, there a basket case and chansari priced them way way too high. If we were on the market, we would have plenty of suitors
indeedido
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Don’t be silly.
Sheffield Wednesday to June 2024 have a net value of -£80m. Now they are in liquidation and haemorrhaging money they will be even worse.
We like every Champo club lose money, but we have positive net shareholder value.
They have a dilapidated stadium that should be knocked down and poor facilities overall.
I’m not saying we MUST get a richer owner, a different owner, but if Gibson would genuinely sell we are a much more attractive buy than Wednesday right now.
Cardiffdaffs
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It is not the quantity but the quality. More often than not individuals who have in the past bought championship and top EFL clubs are often shysters and asset strippers. The Venky's Carson Yeung, Chansiri, Talal Al-Hammad, Ken Anderson, Dai Yongge, Mel Morris. There are more.
RobboTheRed
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sheff wed are not the norm and its frankly ridiculous to think Gibson would sell the club to such a chancer as chansari. So please let's not use sheff wed as a typical ownership example
I'm not sure why it matters whether they are an American consortium or not. That is who is buying football clubs and they have more money than most. The point is that there would be buyers.
I didn't have a pop at anyone. I don't need evidence to understand that we are a desirable proposition. I bet Gibson hasn't had anyone knocking on his door offering to buy his house but I know if it was for sale there would be someone interested in it.
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@Nano "I don't believe at all Gibson's line about only having one single (terrible) offer for the club."
Also @Nano "I didn't have a pop at anyone. I don't need evidence..."
Thanks, you've clarified your position really well. Accusing the Chairman of being a liar isn't having a pop, and you don't need any evidence to state that loads of other clubs of our stature have had successful investment in the last 20 years.
mercury_redstone7
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Its seems a bit silly to placate the firestick sat at home mob, its not like regular supporters or the club think they are worthy words, when they don't put anything into the club themselves, yet they demand the owner of the club to sell up. But I suppose its tough on the settee at times.
What if the said new owners don't bring success like a lot of the overseas failures have ? Even those 2 bob ones in the PL are only a relegation from absolute disaster.
What if the said new owners don't bring success like a lot of the overseas failures have ? Even those 2 bob ones in the PL are only a relegation from absolute disaster.
RobboTheRed
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All supposition on your part assuming people critical of gibson are firestick supporters.
Whilst i am not necessarily wanting a regime change I think hes pretty much made a balls of the last 20 years as owner and I am season ticket holder.
His 'job' is to provide the financial backing to allow his football management team to compete. He has done that every year of the last 20, against a backdrop of changing financial rules, Covid, wealth fund and dodgy Russian financial doping, corruption (and on and on).
He can't score the goals in the tight games that decide the season, and he's been a football watcher for long enough to know that it is a sport with far more losers than winners.
indeedido
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His job is also to appoint the best people to utilise his assets and the budget he provides.
Of course he can't score the goals, prevent the goals, but he does employ the people who recruit, coach, select and retain the people who do.
BoroMart
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Of course there have been many poor owners, but plenty of good ones too
BoroMart
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Agreed
mercury_redstone7
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No I mentioned that the OP in a previous post did say a while back that he had jacked in etc, but I did mention that if you invest your criticism is valid in my opinion.
I know he likes the Boro, but its a bit stupid saying Gibson should resign when he has resigned himself.
Is it a good point me saying me that Sheffield United's chairman should resign, as I think he made mistakes, when I don't go or invest time or money. ?
...and he has done a great job, on the whole. Where has he failed to appoint the 'best people'? Bearing in mind that football management is about the only job where you are guaranteed to fail and get sacked, no matter what you do.
He has then backed whoever he has appointed with all the financial support he can.
This season, we have seen how well he has done with appointments to the recruitment team who have performed a review and lost the coach and his team as a result, and have then identified and recruited 2 management teams who have kept the promotion show on the road. At some point Kim and his team will leave. I'm assuming the recruitment team also have a plan for that. Not too shabby?
indeedido
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I don't expect anybody to have read all my posts, let alone linked them together but to summarise.
1. I strongly defended Gibson's decision making over the last year or so and consistently applauded his financial actions and commitment.
2. My criticism of decision making was since relegation in 09, perhaps even since Eindhoven.
I think his people appointments since Eindhoven have been reflected in the status of the club and the financial disaster that accompanied it.
You'd have to be extremely sensitive to see that as having a pop. He's made those quotes when people have questioned his ownership. It's a politicians answer. He's selling himself to the fans in that situation so what he says is salesman type speak. I don't believe he's going to reveal all the details and I do believe he will say things that aren't wholly true to make himself look better. That's not the same thing as calling him a liar. I'm aware he's a businessman and he understands how to speak to an audience.
Subbuteo_171
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I’d question why the OP reignited this debate after we fell out of the top 2 rather than during any of the 220 days since the start of the season we were in it.
The obvious answer is they want to be proved right. They’d rather the club fail than be proved wrong. A very strange stance for a purported fan to take.
The obvious answer is they want to be proved right. They’d rather the club fail than be proved wrong. A very strange stance for a purported fan to take.
It's pathetic.
A Trumpesque type departure from reality.
I've asked this many times of the usual 'Gibson out' fkwits "and who would buy us" and never ever got a remotely sensible answer, because there isn't one.
They need to fk off to Man City or Chelsea or Man U.
Teams better suited to their ridiculous vision of wealth and success.
Take a look at this and tell me that taking over a Championship club makes sense and if Gibson wanted out they's be queuing at the door.
www.bbc.co.uk
A Trumpesque type departure from reality.
I've asked this many times of the usual 'Gibson out' fkwits "and who would buy us" and never ever got a remotely sensible answer, because there isn't one.
They need to fk off to Man City or Chelsea or Man U.
Teams better suited to their ridiculous vision of wealth and success.
Take a look at this and tell me that taking over a Championship club makes sense and if Gibson wanted out they's be queuing at the door.
Is the Championship heading for financial 'catastrophe'?
BBC Sport takes a look at if the second tier could be facing a "doomsday scenario" as club accounts reveal the significant scale of their losses.
www.bbc.co.uk
RobboTheRed
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And Wrexham were