The Saudi banner yesterday....

RedAsABeetroot said:
Here's an alternative view from those who only see things in black and white.

www.themag.co.uk

Middlesbrough fans getting very weird with Newcastle United

You have to laugh… Middlesbrough fans getting very weird with Newcastle United.
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What a sad twit.
This lout symbolises the British Establishment`s relationship with the religious extremist murderers.
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Meanwhile UK Arms Manufacturers make huge profits from supplying weapons sold to the Religious tyrants to murder innocent people in Yemen!
We cant just call out the Premier "fit-for" criteria.
Our Arms Trade and Establishments active support for the Tyranical regime, goes far deeper than football.
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We not only provide weapons, but military personnel and expertise - who have a permenant base in Riyad through the British Military Mission.
www.dailymaverick.co.za

The UK’s secret military unit that answers to Saudi Arabian commanders

The UK military has a team of high-ranking soldiers embedded in the Saudi Arabian armed forces who are believed to be taking their orders from Saudi commanders, it can be revealed.
www.dailymaverick.co.za www.dailymaverick.co.za
 
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Rofesleg said:
On the Sunderland site the person who appears to be responsible for their banners said the timing has to be right.

As an example he said it would have been wrong to do one about Alex Neil yesterday because they got hammered.

How on earth did they know that beforehand?
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Ivan Toney told them when he was putting his coupon together.
 
festa5 said:
It'd be one thing if they were genuinely quiet about their owners and acted like they were uncomfortable about it but felt "they can't do anything about it" but that's not remotely true anyway. Most of them were/are very excited by their owners and some practically hero worship them which is what leaves a particularly bad taste in the mouth.

It's not an uncomfortable truth for them. A lot are openly idolising human rights abusers. Pathetically desperate small time fans.

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Yes, this. I have actually never heard any of their fans in real life or on the telly/YouTube even say they don’t feel comfortable about it. I honestly think most clubs’ fans would have reacted negatively to it and/or tried to block it. But they have literally welcomed it with open arms. Even aside from any “local rivalry” they care so much about protesting even exists, it’s hard not to detest their fans at the moment.

Thankfully Carrick basically identifies as a United fan now anyway.

Yes United, not Leeds/Newcastle, but the main one.
 
RedAsABeetroot said:
Here's an alternative view from those who only see things in black and white.

www.themag.co.uk

Middlesbrough fans getting very weird with Newcastle United

You have to laugh… Middlesbrough fans getting very weird with Newcastle United.
www.themag.co.uk
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I read about 20% of it which was basically a lengthy rebuttal of Newcastle fans caring, or even noticing, Middlesbrough as a club or fan base.

I will assume the remaining 80% is of a similar nature but I don’t have a spare hour to read through it.
 
Perhaps a super league isn't such a bad idea.
I was very much against it before but let's face it.
These clubs have already left the country in terms of ownership.
Manchester City are owned by Abu Dhabi.
Qatar is taking an interest in Manchester United if press reports are right.
Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool are owned by American corporations that could rival many countries wealth.
So clubs at the very top, in terms of regularly challenging for trophies, are all owned by foreign countries with questionable ethics or big American companies who call our game "soccer"
And now we have a less significant club in Newcastle who are owned by (lets be honest) Saudi Arabia.
Just my opinion but these are not English clubs anymore.
They are embassies for foreign owners looking to make a financial or political profit.
This is not good for our game in the long term.
So let them play in their own little corrupt league until it all collapses.
The sooner the better.
 
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atypical_boro said:
Yes, this. I have actually never heard any of their fans in real life or on the telly/YouTube even say they don’t feel comfortable about it. I honestly think most clubs’ fans would have reacted negatively to it and/or tried to block it. But they have literally welcomed it with open arms. Even aside from any “local rivalry” they care so much about protesting even exists, it’s hard not to detest their fans at the moment.

Thankfully Carrick basically identifies as a United fan now anyway.

Yes United, not Leeds/Newcastle, but the main one.
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The funniest are the ones that justify this new regime by comparing them to that tw@ Ashley.

Yes tw@ maybe but not a genocidal murderer.
 
wilkos_perm said:
Yep. What sort of a response is "you're not important to us...it's not a derby" etc
It's not remotely relevant
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The whole ‘It’s not a Derby’ thing is relatively new from the Geordies and Mackems. Obviously it’s not THE Derby for them, but in the seventies, eighties and nineties it was regarded as a Derby by both sets of fans. Bobby Robson, Kevin Keegan and Alan Shearer have all referred to it as a Derby in the past.

On another note, a fanbase notorious for punching horses calling out others as ‘weird’ is rather splendid.
 
Granville Bennett said:
The whole ‘It’s not a Derby’ thing is relatively new from the Geordies and Mackems. Obviously it’s not THE Derby for them, but in the seventies, eighties and nineties it was regarded as a Derby by both sets of fans. Bobby Robson, Kevin Keegan and Alan Shearer have all referred to it as a Derby in the past.

On another note, a fanbase notorious for punching horses calling out others as ‘weird’ is rather splendid.
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you’re right, but TBH the whole “it’s not a derby” thing from both sets of Trophy Dodgers is quite funny now. They don’t seem to get that the more wound up they get about it the less they seem to like us. Which makes it, errrr, a rivalry.😂
 
Most Skunks an Deck Chairs - who spend their time telling us they dont care about us [?] and argue about the label of being a "derby" - were`nt born before the Riverside opened and think the "Pink" was a sex toy. They have no idea who Saint n Greavesie were and think football was invented in 1992.(n)
 
Good on rf08 for making the point. (y)
As far as I`m aware, only us and Palace fans have kept the issue to the fore - whilst they just roll around in Saudi blood money.
 
Good for us and nice to see it appreciated by the other local club.

However, what is this bastardisation on their forum? This makes my brain hurt.

Sky game on telly, not sure what the discussion has to entail? Not depreciationing your efforts but fans of other clubs are doing it and we can't raise a salient point against our most hated rivals? It's not political It's human rights mate, not controversial in any way, unless it's a club objection of course?

Quite sure Amnesty wouldn't be averse to helping
 
Unfortunately, our fans would be exactly the same had the Saudis taken over the Boro and we were looking like buying a trophy or two, it's all very chippy.
 
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