The Next President of The USA

Who will be the next president of the USA?

  • Harris

    Votes: 117 59.1%

  • Trump

    Votes: 81 40.9%
  • Total voters
    198
  • Poll closed .
VladKinder said:
You don't have to be rich to be in the stockmarket just financially literate enough to know that if you
put aside some money a month to dollar cost average into the market (a index fund would be best) over the very long term you can make life for
yourself and your family better and maybe retire early.

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VladKinder said:
I think the market would have gone up either way short term.
Long term who knows?
But the fact that there will be no court cases helps as does the Republican clean sweep.

Also Trump is seen as better for the Bitcoin and Crypto investors who have had to put who with some disgraceful tactics from the Dems and the SEC.
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We’ll see how it fares when he goes ahead with his tariffs then.
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I hope @SmallTown is alright - i have a supply of dummies that my kids used to use when they were little if you need them, and i think I’ve some soft toys you can cuddle as well somewhere xx
 
proctors_perm said:
I’m trying to recall what actual damage he achieved in his first term? He attempted to start petty trade wars and failed, border control is impossible, the non-acceptance of the result was bad however, and subsequent insurrection.
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Damage? We'll, just off the top of my head, Trump:

Withdrew from Paris climate accords.

Eliminated 100's of regulations designed to protect the environment.

Provided encouragement to dictators and demagogues around the world.

Killed off the Iran nuclear deal.

Introduced tariffs that damaged both the US economy and world trade.

Ramped up racist and white supremacist sentiment.

Curtailed women's health and reproductive rights.

Inspired insurrectionists to try and overturn the results of a free and fair election.

And that's just the things that come immediately to mind - I'm sure there'd be more if I bothered looking.
 
Liamo said:
Damage? We'll, just off the top of my head, Trump:

Withdrew from Paris climate accords.

Eliminated 100's of regulations designed to protect the environment.

Provided encouragement to dictators and demagogues around the world.

Killed off the Iran nuclear deal.

Introduced tariffs that damaged both the US economy and world trade.

Ramped up racist and white supremacist sentiment.

Curtailed women's health and reproductive rights.

Inspired insurrectionists to try and overturn the results of a free and fair election.

And that's just the things that come immediately to mind - I'm sure there'd be more if I bothered looking.
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Was indirectly responsible for he deaths of millions from COVID thanks to his inability to show empathy for his fellow citizens. Of course, he didn't resort to drinking bleach when he got it, instead choosing to get the most advanced and probably experimental treatments going as well as the vaccine.
 
Liamo said:
Damage? We'll, just off the top of my head, Trump:

Withdrew from Paris climate accords.

Eliminated 100's of regulations designed to protect the environment.

Provided encouragement to dictators and demagogues around the world.

Killed off the Iran nuclear deal.

Introduced tariffs that damaged both the US economy and world trade.

Ramped up racist and white supremacist sentiment.

Curtailed women's health and reproductive rights.

Inspired insurrectionists to try and overturn the results of a free and fair election.

And that's just the things that come immediately to mind - I'm sure there'd be more if I bothered looking.
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Yeah but a box of cornflakes was 20 cents cheaper and folk could fill their car for a bit less so… swings and roundabouts, innit? 🤷🏼‍♂️
 
Where on earth did circa 15m Democrat votes disappear to since 2020..?

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Forgive me if this has already been de-bunked, but as far as I know it is legitimate.
 
Magic Man said:
Where on earth did circa 15m Democrat votes disappear to since 2020..?

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Forgive me if this has already been de-bunked, but as far as I know it is legitimate.
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Plenty of votes aren't declared yet.

California is still only at 59% counted.

There's still a big drop off from 2020, but it's nowhere near 15m and 2020 was the highest ever number of votes cast at a US election, partly impacted by lockdown.

Barring 2020, Harris has received more votes than any Democratic candidate in history even with the incomplete count.
 
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Magic Man said:
Where on earth did circa 15m Democrat votes disappear to since 2020..?

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Forgive me if this has already been de-bunked, but as far as I know it is legitimate.
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Not debunked as such but it's preliminary (not all the votes have been counted yet) and out of date (newer figures show Harris at closer to 70 million votes already).

Also, for a more detailed look at the idea that there is something suspicious about these numbers, see PBS article below.

Fact check: Trump’s 2024 win doesn’t prove claims that the 2020 election was stolen
 
Liamo said:
Not debunked as such but it's preliminary (not all the votes have been counted yet) and out of date (newer figures show Harris at closer to 70 million votes already).

Also, for a more detailed look at the idea that there is something suspicious about these numbers, see PBS article below.

Fact check: Trump’s 2024 win doesn’t prove claims that the 2020 election was stolen
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Just FWIW, Harris's popular vote total has now topped 70 million and again, not all votes have been counted yet. There's still a slight chance she may ultimately win the popular vote - although it looks decidedly unlikely at this stage

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