The lead minister for coronavirus

You're predictability is turning into a caricature, Coops. Of what I don't know, but from here it looks very unpleasant.

However, if it makes you happy and gives you a sense of completely unearned superiority, carry on. Everybody else (pretty much) is laughing at you.
 
FartingGnome said:
You're predictability is turning into a caricature, Coops. Of what I don't know, but from here it looks very unpleasant.

However, if it makes you happy and gives you a sense of completely unearned superiority, carry on. Everybody else (pretty much) is laughing at you.
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It’s just silly isn’t it. An article is written. Any article.... with lots of information in it.
Someone thinks - oh, I know, I will ignore the information because I don’t like the title on the top of the page.
Not only that - I will show I am laughing at it.

In an adult world there might be a discussion about whether the information is correct and whether the appointment is appropriate.
 
It’s more to do with the way The Guardian have used this pandemic as a political stick since the outbreak. I said weeks ago they were playing politics with it. I.e the story where a dr (just so happened to be a member of the Labour Party) slammed the governments approach etc all these kind of headlines

Then every story criticising the government posted on here is nearly always the guardian. And because it’s the guardian it must be gospel. That's what I find funny. Then you will have a story comes out in the telegraph or the daily mail criticising any non Tory and its oh it’s the torygraph and the daily heil what you expect, not taking any notice of that etc etc.

You dismiss any stories printed in any pro right papers and openly publish the left wing ones. Yeah that's political leaning but don't be surprised if people with a separate view dismiss it as political propaganda just as you would do with a right leaning paper. (That goes for in general right v left views not me and you lot etc)
 
Coops really has a point there..
The guardian are a completely untrustworthy news source since Alan Rusbridger and co left and were bought out.
Just look at how they moderate their comments sections and when they open them.
Controlled opposition springs to mind.
There was a good piece by John Harris the other day mind
 
The guardian isn't behind a pay wall, and its target audience fits the demographics of this board hence it gets posted a lot.

That said any article from a newspaper should be read with the understanding that a) it's primary purpose is to sell papers b) they are written by journalists who often have limited experience of the field they are writing about. C) since the advent of the internet they know exactly how to publish articles that receive clicks.

They quite often write stories about my line of work that are well off and attack the wrong targets.

Doesn't mean they shouldn't be the jumping off point for debate.

End result will be most people will fit them into their framework of what they deem to be the truth.

Said minister may well be an excellent person for the job due to the contacts and expertese he brings to the job. Equally he could be the equivalent of a chinless Victorian general incompetently sending their troops to their death because he got the job through breeding rather than competance.
 
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which stories are dismissed? i wpuld take with a pinch of salt stuff in the sun express mirror and mail but generally trust guardian times and to a lesser extent the telegraph, nothing to do with political slant, more credibility
 
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which stories are dismissed? i wpuld take with a pinch of salt stuff in the sun express mirror and mail but generally trust guardian times and to a lesser extent the telegraph, nothing to do with political slant, more credibility
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Add the independent.
 
Cooper671 said:
It’s more to do with the way The Guardian have used this pandemic as a political stick since the outbreak. I said weeks ago they were playing politics with it. I.e the story where a dr (just so happened to be a member of the Labour Party) slammed the governments approach etc all these kind of headlines

Then every story criticising the government posted on here is nearly always the guardian. And because it’s the guardian it must be gospel. That's what I find funny. Then you will have a story comes out in the telegraph or the daily mail criticising any non Tory and its oh it’s the torygraph and the daily heil what you expect, not taking any notice of that etc etc.

You dismiss any stories printed in any pro right papers and openly publish the left wing ones. Yeah that's political leaning but don't be surprised if people with a separate view dismiss it as political propaganda just as you would do with a right leaning paper. (That goes for in general right v left views not me and you lot etc)
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As you know I’m red wall Labour and I don’t think the Guardian is a Labour supporting paper or left leaning in any shape or form, it just tries to be intellectually anti political establishment. It may not be in the pocket of the Tories but it set out to destroy Corbyn as much as any of the right wing propaganda rags did in the run up to the 2019 election. It’s a paper not to be trusted in my opinion.
 
The point remains - what was the problem with the story. Other than it was published in the wrong paper.
The Guardian, by the way, was as anti Corbyn as many others during the election.
 
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