The French are at it again :-(

The chemicals sector faces a £2bn hit of post-Brexit red tape, twice the cost of initial industry estimates, as Britain sets up its own regulatory regime, ministers have warned.

While Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak have promised to “axe EU red tape” during the Tory leadership campaign, the cost of homegrown British red tape after Brexit is mounting.

A government impact assessment, seen by the Financial Times, has put the central estimate for the costs of registering chemicals on a new UK database — often duplicating existing registrations with the EU — at £2bn.

The chemicals industry last year warned that the new regime — known as UK Reach — would cost about £1bn — but the government now accepts that many more substances will have to be registered than previously thought.
 
SmallTown said:
The chemicals sector faces a £2bn hit of post-Brexit red tape, twice the cost of initial industry estimates, as Britain sets up its own regulatory regime, ministers have warned.

While Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak have promised to “axe EU red tape” during the Tory leadership campaign, the cost of homegrown British red tape after Brexit is mounting.

A government impact assessment, seen by the Financial Times, has put the central estimate for the costs of registering chemicals on a new UK database — often duplicating existing registrations with the EU — at £2bn.

The chemicals industry last year warned that the new regime — known as UK Reach — would cost about £1bn — but the government now accepts that many more substances will have to be registered than previously thought.
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I can tell you first hand that the CIA (Chemical Industries Association, not the other lot!) have long thought Brexit to be the madness it is. Nevertheless, they have tried all along to work with the government to firstly plan for it and then to try and make it work. Alas, they are dealing with idiots who simply don't care.
 
SmallTown said:
The chemicals sector faces a £2bn hit of post-Brexit red tape, twice the cost of initial industry estimates, as Britain sets up its own regulatory regime, ministers have warned.

While Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak have promised to “axe EU red tape” during the Tory leadership campaign, the cost of homegrown British red tape after Brexit is mounting.

A government impact assessment, seen by the Financial Times, has put the central estimate for the costs of registering chemicals on a new UK database — often duplicating existing registrations with the EU — at £2bn.

The chemicals industry last year warned that the new regime — known as UK Reach — would cost about £1bn — but the government now accepts that many more substances will have to be registered than previously thought.
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REACH is just one example of the madness. It’s a great system that made a lot of sense and should have been something the UK remained a part of. It’s also another example of how people voting leave weren’t given the truth regarding EU membership.
 
And don’t get me started on health and safety regulation. Lots of them in Britain came from EU directives. Directives that are aimed at keeping people safe and making sure companies conduct their business in a responsible way.

Vote Leave just painted a picture that the EU was an evil imperial empire and many people fell for it.
 
Nero said:
And don’t get me started on health and safety regulation. Lots of them in Britain came from EU directives. Directives that are aimed at keeping people safe and making sure companies conduct their business in a responsible way.

Vote Leave just painted a picture that the EU was an evil imperial empire and many people fell for it.
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And most of the rules were written by the British. It's just a cultish obsession now and no mainstream politician seems to have the balls to stand up and say what is blindingly bloody obvious.
 
exiledinboro said:
Again I recall the Labour Party offering to remain in REACH

So this is a result of the Conservative voters of 2019

Small town, who will you vote in since both Labour and Tories are pretty much aligned on their hard brexit positions?
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I voted leave, so my hands are clean.

I think with the current Tories, we have have more problems then brexit, they are all just exacerbated by it, so they critical thing is to get the Tories out and vote tactically. Really I would like to vote Lib Dems as they are the only ones who want to save the country from brexit but as I have a labour MP, I'll probably have to vote for her. It's sad isn't it? We have this evil cult of brexit who are clinging on to it so strongly with such lack of sanity, that the two major parties can't touch it, even as it tears the country apart. I can honestly never forgive anyone who, right now, when we can see how bad it is, still support brexit. There most be something seriously not right with them.
 
Littlejimmy said:
And most of the rules were written by the British. It's just a cultish obsession now and no mainstream politician seems to have the balls to stand up and say what is blindingly bloody obvious.
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Exactly. I said this the other week to someone too. I remember after the Gulf of Mexico disaster the EU were very keen (obviously) to prevent a massive blow out in the North Sea - there have been near misses that were not far from being worst case scenario.

The EU knew the British, Dutch and Norwegians were the ones with the knowledge so went directly to them and asked them to create something. The 2015 regulations in Britain implemented a directive that was pretty much written by Britain anyway. Just another example.
 
Nero said:
And don’t get me started on health and safety regulation. Lots of them in Britain came from EU directives. Directives that are aimed at keeping people safe and making sure companies conduct their business in a responsible way.

Vote Leave just painted a picture that the EU was an evil imperial empire and many people fell for it.
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Grease-Smug and co. will get rid of the lot if they can. Remember he wants Indian standards. He could not care less if people die.
 
exiledinboro said:
Keir Starmer supports brexit and you just said you can’t forgive anyone who still supports it 🤷🏻‍♂️
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There's nothing to support, we've left the EU and won't be going back in anytime soon. If he's saying he supports it, then he likely means I just supports that it's over, he's not running around with a flag saying "leave means leave".

There's a big difference between accepting it and dealing with it, to putting yourself on the other side of that, which guarantees a GE loss.

It's like how I accept I'm going to die one day, there's b***r all I can do about it, but it doesn't mean I support it.
 
exiledinboro said:
It's a really simple point I made

Smalltown says he may vote Labour while saying he also can't forgive anyone who supports brexit still

Let me put it another way, my point was specifically about Smalltown and his contradictions in his argument.

please re-read what I said
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You said KS supports Brexit (which I don't think he's said), but even if he had, to me it looks like you either took it out of context or tried to ensure others take it out of context.

It's not a crime to vote for the least worst option, and voting for the least worse option is better than not voting at all, which just opens the door for the absolute worst. It's also not a crime for you to make a decision for your own circumstances, and advise others in a completely different direction to you, as it suits them better (but they might not know it).

I've never agreed with every policy or statement of any party, most shouldn't unless it 100% aligns exactly with them, which it shouldn't as the odds of that are in the millions, considering they have loads of policies and countless statements, and all these change over time, as they should. Most should be able to pick the best side for them, or at least pick against the side which is worst for them.

I support Boro, always will, doesn't mean I agree with every player our recruitment team have bought, far from it, and certainly not agreed with every manager or expected him to pick the same team week in week out.
 
exiledinboro said:
It's a really simple point I made

Smalltown says he may vote Labour while saying he also can't forgive anyone who supports brexit still

Let me put it another way, my point was specifically about Smalltown and his contradictions in his argument.

please re-read what I said
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It's nit a simple point you're just a brexit refusenik and the worst type of person. In my eyes. You're trying to defend something that is indefensible.

Also I never said I'd vote for Starmer. Because I can't.
 
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