The end?

You might want to watch "Winter on Fire", it's on Netflix, might open your eyes on Russia's meddling in Ukraines democratic process.

The people of Ukraine want closer ties to Europe and the West, Russia (Putin) is deeply opposed to this.

Is the West supposed to sit and watch whilst a friendly country is invaded and allow systematic genocide to take place.

As other posters have said, they aren't in agreement with much of America's foreign policy, but on this issue and how it has decided to support Ukraine, I don't think there is much that can be criticised.
I always read reviews before watching things it gives me a good idea if its worth watching or not. I found this about your winter of fire

Jonathan Sterling
 
More in brief from Deep Throat (gonna call him that at work for a laugh one day).

Surovikin refused to attack Ukraine from Belarus. That's why he is gone.
Nikiforov is, and I am quoting our source here "a moron". He is, I believe, the general who had his troops digging trenches in Chernobyl.

So anyway, expect the Belarus attack to happen now.

Meanwhile, tank girl's brigade has begun their assault on Kreminna

Kraken regiment are having a go at Svatove,

I saw an update that Ukraine had made an advance near Kreminna and taken some ground and a village yesterday.
 
What I find odd about the person who wrote that reply was the fact he had been a member on that website since 2018 and that comment was his one and only contribution to the page.
I only looked it up because the poster above mentioned this to me . Looking into it some more here is Ross Kemp on scene talking about the exact same thing this Jonathan Sterling is talking about .

watch here
 
I always read reviews before watching things it gives me a good idea if its worth watching or not. I found this about your winter of fire

Jonathan Sterling
You did well to dig that out, when I searched for reviews the consensus seems to be that it is a well made documentary that helps to explain some complex issues.

Whether you chose to ignore some of the issues raised, you cannot ignore the fact that the Russian puppet president of Ukraine chose to ignore the results of a democratic election.
 
You did well to dig that out, when I searched for reviews the consensus seems to be that it is a well made documentary that helps to explain some complex issues.

Whether you chose to ignore some of the issues raised, you cannot ignore the fact that the Russian puppet president of Ukraine chose to ignore the results of a democratic election.
From what I read he was ran out of Town . I have read he was corrupt all the same most leaders are on this planet. No more than the Zelensky character now. You can see real time what it was like in that Ross Kemp program lots of far right nut cases I don't support them and never will . Clear as day for all to see .

Like I said it's time it all stopped the US will not beat Russia in a war all that will happen is the end of us all. All because of a few corrupt greedy power mad lunatics determined to take over the whole world.
 
From what I read he was ran out of Town . I have read he was corrupt all the same most leaders are on this planet. No more than the Zelensky character now. You can see real time what it was like in that Ross Kemp program lots of far right nut cases I don't support them and never will . Clear as day for all to see .

Like I said it's time it all stopped the US will not beat Russia in a war all that will happen is the end of us all. All because of a few corrupt greedy power mad lunatics determined to take over the whole world.
So you're going with the Russian narrative that they started the war to deal with a Nazi country?
 
So you're going with the Russian narrative that they started the war to deal with a Nazi country?
I think they had a few things they did not like . They did not like NATO moving ever closer to the Russian border they did not like the NAZI theme that took over Ukraine as seen in that ross kemp program, All the attacks on Russian speaking Ukrainians probably a lot of other things going on who knows , I know Russia did not do this for the sake of doing it . NATO played it's part in it all as did the US and the far right. Sorry if it's not what you wanted to hear it's just things that can't be brushed aside as nonsense. Main thing is some one sensible gets a grip of it all and calms the situation down.
 
Sorry to hear this ,

I am no expert like I said earlier the things I have read gave the impression most of the people in the east are more or less Russian speaking Ukrainians who went against the regime change in 2014 and wanted to stay close to Russia . It's a terrible situation I just want it to stop before its too late.
I can’t imagine there is a poster on this board who doesn’t want it to end.

Sadly, I don’t think we are anywhere near that point though.
 
I think they had a few things they did not like . They did not like NATO moving ever closer to the Russian border they did not like the NAZI theme that took over Ukraine as seen in that ross kemp program, All the attacks on Russian speaking Ukrainians probably a lot of other things going on who knows , I know Russia did not do this for the sake of doing it . NATO played it's part in it all as did the US and the far right. Sorry if it's not what you wanted to hear it's just things that can't be brushed aside as nonsense. Main thing is some one sensible gets a grip of it all and calms the situation down.
Ah, Ross Kemp, the incisive, prescient and perspicacious political commentator.
(I did have to double check who he was. Quoting this person seemed so incongruous).
 
Ah, Ross Kemp, the incisive, prescient and perspicacious political commentator.
(I did have to double check who he was. Quoting this person seemed so incongruous).
Why not click this and watch watch go to 11.36 mark to save yourself some time and see exactly who you are supporting.

Or seen as this was made way back in October 2014 it must be just fake Russian propaganda I guess !!!

You should grow up and stop writing lame replies watch and see who you are supporting here. I don't and never will support these people.
 
I have work so this is me done for the evening , I am not here to embarrass anyone or upset people I simply thought this thread needed something to actually make people have a think on instead of listening to stories from secret agents and the like no offence intended to the thread starter . anyway all the best up the Boro and Peace to all .
 
I think they had a few things they did not like . They did not like NATO moving ever closer to the Russian border they did not like the NAZI theme that took over Ukraine as seen in that ross kemp program, All the attacks on Russian speaking Ukrainians probably a lot of other things going on who knows , I know Russia did not do this for the sake of doing it . NATO played it's part in it all as did the US and the far right. Sorry if it's not what you wanted to hear it's just things that can't be brushed aside as nonsense. Main thing is some one sensible gets a grip of it all and calms the situation down.

Can’t see that happening, it appears that this war is only going to get worse.
 
I have work so this is me done for the evening , I am not here to embarrass anyone or upset people I simply thought this thread needed something to actually make people have a think on instead of listening to stories from secret agents and the like no offence intended to the thread starter . anyway all the best up the Boro and Peace to all .
You should grow up and stop writing lame replies watch and see who you are supporting here.

Of course you aren't.
 
The Russian nazi crushing narrative is akin to the EU invading because the far right in English politics were in the ascendency in the run up to Brexit and Europe and they didn't like the UK looking across the atlantic for closer ties. In other words, nonsense. The far right may have been there, but that is not why Russia invaded. Putin has long nurtured a plan to turn the clock back (and borders) to the USSR. More broadly, his plan (and this is known, not surmised) was to take Crimea, Donbass, Ukraine, Moldova, Belarus (already there effectively), take the Suwalki gap, thus uniting Kalingrad with the rest of the Empire. He then planned to go for Finland and Sweden. Why Sweden? Because the island of Gotland is key to the movement of naval traffic through the Baltic (and because he hates Sweden because of Sweden's history with Russia ... ie. Swedish imperialist past). That is why he had to be stopped. It's the equivalent of stopping Hitler in Poland.
 
Why not click this and watch watch go to 11.36 mark to save yourself some time and see exactly who you are supporting.

Or seen as this was made way back in October 2014 it must be just fake Russian propaganda I guess !!!

You should grow up and stop writing lame replies watch and see who you are supporting here. I don't and never will support these people.
I see that rather than answer my second question (what action should the West have taken against Putin’s aggression), you have resorted to personal insults. That’s disappointing and signals the end of our discussion.
 
I wouldn't respond to our recent insurgent. Don't give them any encouragement.

I'm surprised they managed to find this thread in a way. Impressive in an Orwellian sense.


Yep, most of the tripe spouted has been discussed and debunked on this and other threads from earlier in the conflict, I’m not wasting my time repeating myself and digging up old arguments when it’s all here if the person wishes to search and question their bizarre sources. I also saw a ridiculous amount of far right and Nazi imagery in my time in Russia so that argument goes right out the window!
 
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